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Re: Why I can not install software on debian easily?

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On 12/20/2016 12:16 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 12/20/2016 10:46 AM, Joe wrote:
>> On Tue, 20 Dec 2016 06:25:52 -0600
>> Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/19/2016 5:28 PM, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:
>>>>
>>>> [1] Actual case. Thinks she is using Windows because she has
>>>> LibreOffice. Certainly not representative of all grandmothers.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I suspect the User Experience is as important as Application
>>> Software.
>>> Do you know which desktop is being used?
>>>
>>> I've been recommending Debian to an elderly friend who has
>>> expressed annoyance with current version(s) of Windows. He has
>>> sent me an old laptop with an implied "put up or shut up". I want
>>> to put together a demo system that will be attractive to him. I
>>> currently planning on Mate as the desktop. We live 1000 miles
>>> apart so can't just drive over to show him what I use. Comments? TIA
>>>
>>>
>>
>> A good start would be finding the reasons for the current annoyance with
>> Windows, you wouldn't want to replicate them in an attempt to keep his
>> environment familiar.
>
> I've known him and his wife for >40 years. The rumbles I've heard have
> been that Microsoft changes things for the sake of changing things -- cf
> the change in default GUI from Gnome2 to Gnome3 [the reason I use Mate].
> I'm aiming for a DE that someone who comfortably went from Win 3.x thru
> WinXP would feel at home with. I've not personally used anything since
> WinXP.
>
>>
>> I went from Gnome2 to LXDE without too much trauma, at the time of
>> Gnome3's arrival i.e. pre-Mate. When LXDE started giving trouble, which
>> I now know was due to systemd arriving, I moved to Xfce4 and have been
>> happy with it.
>>
>> Note that Windows 8 can be made somewhat civilized, as presumably can
>> 10. He doesn't really have to live with daft tiles and fixed full-screen
>> windows if he doesn't want to. My Win8.1 laptop looks and behaves much
>> like Win7 almost all of the time.
>>
>
> I don't know if the laptop in question can support it, but I'll
> investigate having Grub (LILO?) menu present a choice of desktops. It
> will take some thought to have them present the same application
> software and access the same user data files. [I.E. read email with
> SeaMonkey under Mate one day and under Xfce4 the next without mucking up
> content/context]
>
> [Previous paragraph is me thinking out loud ;]

I think you'll find your friend happy with XFCE, as it is closest to the 
Win95 experience. (IMHO) Ric


-- 
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"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
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  Re: Why I can not install software on debian easily? Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org> - 2016-12-19 03:30 +0100
  Re: Why I can not install software on debian easily? emetib <chadbrabec@gmail.com> - 2016-12-19 04:40 +0100
  Re: Why I can not install software on debian easily? John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2016-12-19 05:00 +0100
  Re: Why I can not install software on debian easily? Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2016-12-19 06:20 +0100
  Re: Why I can not install software on debian easily? deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-12-19 08:40 +0100
  Re: Why I can not install software on debian easily? Nemeth Gyorgy <friczy@freemail.hu> - 2016-12-19 10:50 +0100
    Re: Why I can not install software on debian easily? Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2016-12-20 00:30 +0100
      Re: Why I can not install software on debian easily? Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2016-12-20 10:00 +0100
        Re: Why I can not install software on debian easily? Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2016-12-20 11:30 +0100
          Re: Why I can not install software on debian easily? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-12-20 21:30 +0100
      Re: Why I can not install software on debian easily? Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-12-20 11:30 +0100
      Re: Why I can not install software on debian easily? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-12-20 13:30 +0100
        Re: Why I can not install software on debian easily? Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-12-20 17:30 +0100
          Re: Why I can not install software on debian easily? Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-12-20 18:10 +0100
          Re: Why I can not install software on debian easily? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-12-20 23:00 +0100
        Re: Why I can not install software on debian easily? Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2016-12-20 17:50 +0100
          Re: Why I can not install software on debian easily? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-12-20 18:20 +0100
            Re: Why I can not install software on debian easily? Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2016-12-20 18:40 +0100
            Re: Why I can not install software on debian easily? Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2016-12-20 18:40 +0100
            Re: Why I can not install software on debian easily? emetib <chadbrabec@gmail.com> - 2016-12-20 19:10 +0100
            Re: Why I can not install software on debian easily? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-12-20 21:50 +0100
        Re: Why I can not install software on debian easily? Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2016-12-20 20:30 +0100
        Re: Why I can not install software on debian easily? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-12-20 21:20 +0100
  Re: Why I can not install software on debian easily? Steven Mainor <steve@degga.net> - 2016-12-19 11:40 +0100
  Re: Why I can not install software on debian easily?  Floris <jkfloris@dds.nl> - 2016-12-19 14:40 +0100

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