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Re: Why I can not install software on debian easily?

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On 12/20/2016 10:46 AM, Joe wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Dec 2016 06:25:52 -0600
> Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> wrote:
>
>> On 12/19/2016 5:28 PM, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:
>>>
>>> [1] Actual case. Thinks she is using Windows because she has
>>> LibreOffice. Certainly not representative of all grandmothers.
>>>
>>
>> I suspect the User Experience is as important as Application
>> Software.
>> Do you know which desktop is being used?
>>
>> I've been recommending Debian to an elderly friend who has
>> expressed annoyance with current version(s) of Windows. He has
>> sent me an old laptop with an implied "put up or shut up". I want
>> to put together a demo system that will be attractive to him. I
>> currently planning on Mate as the desktop. We live 1000 miles
>> apart so can't just drive over to show him what I use. Comments? TIA
>>
>>
>
> A good start would be finding the reasons for the current annoyance with
> Windows, you wouldn't want to replicate them in an attempt to keep his
> environment familiar.

I've known him and his wife for >40 years. The rumbles I've heard 
have been that Microsoft changes things for the sake of changing 
things -- cf the change in default GUI from Gnome2 to Gnome3 [the 
reason I use Mate]. I'm aiming for a DE that someone who 
comfortably went from Win 3.x thru WinXP would feel at home with. 
I've not personally used anything since WinXP.

>
> I went from Gnome2 to LXDE without too much trauma, at the time of
> Gnome3's arrival i.e. pre-Mate. When LXDE started giving trouble, which
> I now know was due to systemd arriving, I moved to Xfce4 and have been
> happy with it.
>
> Note that Windows 8 can be made somewhat civilized, as presumably can
> 10. He doesn't really have to live with daft tiles and fixed full-screen
> windows if he doesn't want to. My Win8.1 laptop looks and behaves much
> like Win7 almost all of the time.
>

I don't know if the laptop in question can support it, but I'll 
investigate having Grub (LILO?) menu present a choice of 
desktops. It will take some thought to have them present the same 
application software and access the same user data files. [I.E. 
read email with SeaMonkey under Mate one day and under Xfce4 the 
next without mucking up content/context]

[Previous paragraph is me thinking out loud ;]

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Why I can not install software on debian easily?  john cusey <john_cusey@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-19 03:20 +0100
  Re: Why I can not install software on debian easily? Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org> - 2016-12-19 03:30 +0100
  Re: Why I can not install software on debian easily? emetib <chadbrabec@gmail.com> - 2016-12-19 04:40 +0100
  Re: Why I can not install software on debian easily? John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2016-12-19 05:00 +0100
  Re: Why I can not install software on debian easily? Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2016-12-19 06:20 +0100
  Re: Why I can not install software on debian easily? deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-12-19 08:40 +0100
  Re: Why I can not install software on debian easily? Nemeth Gyorgy <friczy@freemail.hu> - 2016-12-19 10:50 +0100
    Re: Why I can not install software on debian easily? Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2016-12-20 00:30 +0100
      Re: Why I can not install software on debian easily? Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2016-12-20 10:00 +0100
        Re: Why I can not install software on debian easily? Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2016-12-20 11:30 +0100
          Re: Why I can not install software on debian easily? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-12-20 21:30 +0100
      Re: Why I can not install software on debian easily? Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-12-20 11:30 +0100
      Re: Why I can not install software on debian easily? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-12-20 13:30 +0100
        Re: Why I can not install software on debian easily? Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-12-20 17:30 +0100
          Re: Why I can not install software on debian easily? Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-12-20 18:10 +0100
          Re: Why I can not install software on debian easily? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-12-20 23:00 +0100
        Re: Why I can not install software on debian easily? Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2016-12-20 17:50 +0100
          Re: Why I can not install software on debian easily? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-12-20 18:20 +0100
            Re: Why I can not install software on debian easily? Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2016-12-20 18:40 +0100
            Re: Why I can not install software on debian easily? Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2016-12-20 18:40 +0100
            Re: Why I can not install software on debian easily? emetib <chadbrabec@gmail.com> - 2016-12-20 19:10 +0100
            Re: Why I can not install software on debian easily? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-12-20 21:50 +0100
        Re: Why I can not install software on debian easily? Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2016-12-20 20:30 +0100
        Re: Why I can not install software on debian easily? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-12-20 21:20 +0100
  Re: Why I can not install software on debian easily? Steven Mainor <steve@degga.net> - 2016-12-19 11:40 +0100
  Re: Why I can not install software on debian easily?  Floris <jkfloris@dds.nl> - 2016-12-19 14:40 +0100

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