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Jessie upgrade without systemd [was: Debian *not very good]

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Joe:

> A fair number of wheezy systems will be servers, upgraded many times. 
> Mine started out as sarge. What are the odds of such a system making 
> the change to systemd without problems?
>

It depends.  But my own experience is that *if they were already using 
systemd* on Debian 7, it was a certainty that Debian bug #774153 will 
rear its ugly head in an upgrade to Debian 8.  I personally hit it with 
every single such system that I upgraded. I hit it on test systems 
first, of course.  So I had to put retaining shell access during the 
upgrade, to wait for the indeterminate point somewhere in the midst of 
about seven hundred package upgrades (alas, not at the same point on 
every machine) that one needs to go in and hand-run "daemon-reexec", 
into the upgrade procedure.

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Debian *not very good oldbluebear <nvis@eircom.net> - 2016-11-25 16:50 +0100
  Re: Debian *not very good Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-11-25 17:40 +0100
    Re: Debian *not very good The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2016-11-25 21:40 +0100
      Re: Debian *not very good David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-11-26 04:00 +0100
    Re: Debian *not very good Latincom <latincom@vcn.bc.ca> - 2016-11-25 22:30 +0100
      Re: Debian *not very good Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-11-26 01:00 +0100
      Re: Debian *not very good Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2016-11-26 01:00 +0100
        Jessie upgrade without systemd [was: Debian *not very good] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2016-11-26 10:20 +0100
          Re: Jessie upgrade without systemd [was: Debian *not very good] Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2016-11-26 11:50 +0100
            Re: Jessie upgrade without systemd [was: Debian *not very good] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2016-11-26 14:50 +0100
            Re: Jessie upgrade without systemd [was: Debian *not very good] Henning Follmann <hfollmann@itcfollmann.com> - 2016-11-26 15:10 +0100
              Re: Jessie upgrade without systemd [was: Debian *not very good] Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2016-11-26 16:00 +0100
                Re: Jessie upgrade without systemd [was: Debian *not very good] Mart van de Wege <mvdwege@gmail.com> - 2016-11-26 18:40 +0100
            Jessie upgrade without systemd [was: Debian *not very good] Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups@NTLWorld.com> - 2016-12-03 19:10 +0100
          Re: Jessie upgrade without systemd [was: Debian *not very good] Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2016-11-27 22:50 +0100
          Re: Jessie upgrade without systemd [was: Debian *not very good] Marc Shapiro <marcnshap@gmail.com> - 2016-11-30 04:40 +0100
      Re: Debian *not very good Rob van der Putten <rob@sput.nl> - 2016-11-26 18:40 +0100
        Re: Debian *not very good Rob van der Putten <rob@sput.nl> - 2016-11-26 19:00 +0100
        Re: Debian *not very good Latincom <latincom@vcn.bc.ca> - 2016-11-28 08:30 +0100
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