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| From | The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | linux.debian.user |
| Subject | Re: Debian *not very good |
| Date | 2016-11-25 21:40 +0100 |
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On 2016-11-25 at 14:02, Joel Wirāmu Pauling wrote: > Seriously tho; If you had RTFM you would have known systemd and > friends were going to be the default on upgrade and taken steps to > migrate your init.d scripts beforehand. To be fair, it's entirely reasonable to expect that a change in what defaults will only affect new installs, not upgrades; in an upgrade scenario, the defaults have already been applied (during the original install), so there's no reason for the new defaults to get invoked. As I tried to point out repeatedly during the major periods of the systemd debate, different people understand the word "default" in different ways; the interpretation which I would take out of it does not necessarily match the interpretation which you would take out of it, and the interpretation which the speaker meant by it may be different again. Thus, talking about a change in the default - without clarifying exactly what you understand "default" to mean - is not particularly helpful for conveying information. Looking back now, I would also add that the interpretation which seems to have been implemented in actual practice is one of the broadest available. -- The Wanderer The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw
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