Re: A minimalist network

From	Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: A minimalist network
Date	2016-08-18 00:40 +0200
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On 8/17/16 6:00 PM, Brian wrote:
> On Wed 17 Aug 2016 at 17:42:31 -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote:
>
>> On 8/17/16 5:14 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:
>>
>>> Do I really want an "ftp server"? I can see the WinXP machine as a
>>> "server". Do I have problems with definitions?
>> Something has to talk, something has to listen and respond.  Even in a
>> peer-to-peer setup, there has to be a process listening and responding to
>> incoming packets.  Whether you call it a process or a server - something has
>> to be running.
> Very well put. I know nothing about Windows but the principle you outline
> is fundamental to networking. Nothing listening on one machine, therefore
> nothing transferred.
>
> As an alternative to an ftp server there is netcat and Ncat. Both run on
> Debian and both have Windows versions.

Good point.  If all you want to do is send packets from one machine, and 
see them show up on another one - netcat is just the ticket.

Then again, for testing whether networking is working on one machine, 
there's nothing better than having a server running on another machine, 
and telneting to it's port - see if you get a HELO or equivalent.  With 
netcat, it's all human typing and reading on both sides of the connection.

-- 
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice, there is.  .... Yogi Berra

Thread

A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-17 16:50 +0200
  Re: A minimalist network Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2016-08-17 17:20 +0200
    Re: A minimalist network Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2016-08-17 17:40 +0200
      Re: A minimalist network David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-08-17 19:00 +0200
      Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-17 23:20 +0200
        Re: A minimalist network Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2016-08-17 23:50 +0200
          Re: A minimalist network Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-08-18 00:10 +0200
            Re: A minimalist network Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2016-08-18 00:40 +0200
        Re: A minimalist network Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-18 01:20 +0200
          Re: A minimalist network Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org> - 2016-08-18 01:50 +0200
          Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-19 14:00 +0200
            Re: A minimalist network Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2016-08-19 18:40 +0200
        Re: A minimalist network David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2016-08-18 03:30 +0200
          Re: A minimalist network Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2016-08-19 10:20 +0200
    Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-17 23:10 +0200
      Re: A minimalist network Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-17 23:20 +0200
        Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-18 00:40 +0200
          Re: A minimalist network Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2016-08-18 00:40 +0200
      Re: A minimalist network Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2016-08-17 23:20 +0200
        Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-18 00:30 +0200
          Re: A minimalist network Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2016-08-18 00:50 +0200
          Re: A minimalist network David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2016-08-18 03:30 +0200
            Re: A minimalist network Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2016-08-18 04:00 +0200
              Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-18 14:20 +0200
          Re: A minimalist network Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2016-08-18 12:40 +0200
            Re: A minimalist network David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-08-18 22:10 +0200
            Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-19 14:10 +0200
      Re: A minimalist network rhkramer@gmail.com - 2016-08-17 23:40 +0200
        Re: A minimalist network Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2016-08-17 23:50 +0200
          Re: A minimalist network rhkramer@gmail.com - 2016-08-18 01:30 +0200
        Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-18 00:50 +0200
      Re: A minimalist network Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org> - 2016-08-18 01:30 +0200
        Re: A minimalist network Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2016-08-18 13:00 +0200
          Re: A minimalist network David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-08-18 19:10 +0200
          Re: A minimalist network Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2016-08-18 19:20 +0200
            Re: A minimalist network Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-08-18 19:40 +0200
            Re: A minimalist network Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2016-08-18 20:00 +0200
  Re: A minimalist network "der.hans" <deb-user@LuftHans.com> - 2016-08-17 17:20 +0200
    Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-17 22:50 +0200
      Re: A minimalist network Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-17 23:30 +0200
        Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-18 14:10 +0200
          Re: A minimalist network Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-18 16:50 +0200
            Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-19 14:00 +0200
  Re: A minimalist network Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-08-17 23:40 +0200
    Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-18 00:50 +0200
      Re: A minimalist network Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-08-18 01:10 +0200
      Re: A minimalist network Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2016-08-18 01:40 +0200
  Re: A minimalist network David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2016-08-18 03:10 +0200
    Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-18 16:00 +0200
      Re: A minimalist network Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-08-18 16:10 +0200
        Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-19 14:50 +0200
          Re: A minimalist network <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2016-08-19 15:10 +0200
            Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-19 15:50 +0200
              Re: A minimalist network David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-08-19 19:50 +0200
          Re: A minimalist network Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-08-19 16:00 +0200
            Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-19 16:00 +0200
              Re: A minimalist network Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-19 17:00 +0200
                Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-19 19:40 +0200
                Re: A minimalist network Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-08-19 21:20 +0200
                Re: A minimalist network Mike McClain <mike.junk@copper.net> - 2016-08-20 08:40 +0200
                Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-20 13:30 +0200
          Re: A minimalist network Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2016-08-20 22:00 +0200
      Re: A minimalist network rhkramer@gmail.com - 2016-08-18 17:10 +0200
        Re: A minimalist network Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org> - 2016-08-18 17:30 +0200
          RE: A minimalist network Bonno Bloksma <b.bloksma@tio.nl> - 2016-08-19 12:20 +0200
        Re: A minimalist network Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-18 17:40 +0200
        Re: A minimalist network Tim McDonough <tmcdonough@gmail.com> - 2016-08-18 17:50 +0200
        Re: A minimalist network David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-08-18 18:10 +0200
          Re: A minimalist network Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2016-08-18 19:00 +0200
      Re: A minimalist network Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-18 17:40 +0200
      Re: A minimalist network David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2016-08-18 21:00 +0200
        Re: A minimalist network David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-08-18 21:30 +0200
        Re: A minimalist network David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-08-18 21:40 +0200
        Re: A minimalist network Charlie Kravetz <cjk@teamcharliesangels.com> - 2016-08-18 22:40 +0200
          Re: A minimalist network Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-18 23:20 +0200
            Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-19 15:00 +0200
              Re: A minimalist network Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-19 16:00 +0200
                Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-19 16:10 +0200
                Re: A minimalist network Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-19 16:50 +0200
                Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-19 20:00 +0200
                Re: A minimalist network Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2016-08-19 17:50 +0200
                Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-19 20:10 +0200
          Re: A minimalist network Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-08-18 23:20 +0200

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