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Re: A minimalist network

From Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: A minimalist network
Date 2016-08-17 23:20 +0200
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On 8/17/2016 10:34 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> On 8/17/16 11:09 AM, Darac Marjal wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 09:45:39AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
>>> I wish to connect two laptops via Ethernet.
>>>
>>> The Debian machine is having various configurations of Jessie
>>> installed. Consider it a laboratory experiment. It can have
>>> multiple installs in a day. It intentionally has *NO* internet
>>> connectivity. It has a small partition set aside for
>>> preseed.cfg and miscellaneous scripts.
>>>
>>> The second machine is running WinXP Pro SP3 and serves as
>>> source of preseed and script files.
>>>
>>> My internet searches turn up too much outdated information
>>> and/or fine detail. Most link assume a server with multiple
>>> clients. Better description would be a peer to peer setup. It
>>> may be convenient to have the Windows machine act as a
>>> terminal for the Debian machine.
>>
>> If you're connecting the two machines with a single cable, then
>> either the cable needs to be a "cross-over" ethernet cable, or
>> one or other other the devices needs to support
>> "Auto-MDI/MDIX". Support for that was patchy in 10M/100M
>> devices but it mich more common in Gigabit Ethernet devices.
>
> Or you could just plug both machines into a cheap ethernet hub.

I did purchase an "8-Port Gigabit Switch". I don't intend open 
the shrink wrap unless convinced there is no other way. As I've 
said elsewhere a major motivation is educational.

>
>>
>> Once you've got the physical layer sorted (that is, green
>> blinky lights on both machines), then the rest of the
>> configuration should be much the same as any network:
>> * Either give the hosts unique, static IPs OR
>>   Run a DHCP server on one of the machines
>> * Either refer to the hosts by IP address OR
>>   Run a DNS server on one of the machines OR
>>   Write the hostnames in /etc/hosts
>> (%SYSTEMROOT%\system32\drivers\etc\hosts on windows)
>>
>
> If you're continually rebuilding the Debian machine, you probably
> don't want to fool with peer-to-peer setups.  Probably better
> just to enable the ftp server already built into Win XP.

Do I really want an "ftp server"? I can see the WinXP machine as 
a "server". Do I have problems with definitions?
>
> Another thing to do is install PuTTY on the WinXP box as a
> telnet/ssh client.
>

I've seen terms PuTTY and telnet before - will have to use them 
as search terms.

Why would I be interested in ssh as both machines are sitting on 
my desk and _neither_ will be connected to the internet when 
ethernet connection is live?

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A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-17 16:50 +0200
  Re: A minimalist network Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2016-08-17 17:20 +0200
    Re: A minimalist network Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2016-08-17 17:40 +0200
      Re: A minimalist network David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-08-17 19:00 +0200
      Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-17 23:20 +0200
        Re: A minimalist network Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2016-08-17 23:50 +0200
          Re: A minimalist network Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-08-18 00:10 +0200
            Re: A minimalist network Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2016-08-18 00:40 +0200
        Re: A minimalist network Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-18 01:20 +0200
          Re: A minimalist network Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org> - 2016-08-18 01:50 +0200
          Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-19 14:00 +0200
            Re: A minimalist network Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2016-08-19 18:40 +0200
        Re: A minimalist network David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2016-08-18 03:30 +0200
          Re: A minimalist network Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2016-08-19 10:20 +0200
    Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-17 23:10 +0200
      Re: A minimalist network Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-17 23:20 +0200
        Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-18 00:40 +0200
          Re: A minimalist network Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2016-08-18 00:40 +0200
      Re: A minimalist network Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2016-08-17 23:20 +0200
        Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-18 00:30 +0200
          Re: A minimalist network Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2016-08-18 00:50 +0200
          Re: A minimalist network David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2016-08-18 03:30 +0200
            Re: A minimalist network Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2016-08-18 04:00 +0200
              Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-18 14:20 +0200
          Re: A minimalist network Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2016-08-18 12:40 +0200
            Re: A minimalist network David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-08-18 22:10 +0200
            Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-19 14:10 +0200
      Re: A minimalist network rhkramer@gmail.com - 2016-08-17 23:40 +0200
        Re: A minimalist network Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2016-08-17 23:50 +0200
          Re: A minimalist network rhkramer@gmail.com - 2016-08-18 01:30 +0200
        Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-18 00:50 +0200
      Re: A minimalist network Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org> - 2016-08-18 01:30 +0200
        Re: A minimalist network Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2016-08-18 13:00 +0200
          Re: A minimalist network David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-08-18 19:10 +0200
          Re: A minimalist network Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2016-08-18 19:20 +0200
            Re: A minimalist network Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-08-18 19:40 +0200
            Re: A minimalist network Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2016-08-18 20:00 +0200
  Re: A minimalist network "der.hans" <deb-user@LuftHans.com> - 2016-08-17 17:20 +0200
    Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-17 22:50 +0200
      Re: A minimalist network Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-17 23:30 +0200
        Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-18 14:10 +0200
          Re: A minimalist network Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-18 16:50 +0200
            Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-19 14:00 +0200
  Re: A minimalist network Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-08-17 23:40 +0200
    Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-18 00:50 +0200
      Re: A minimalist network Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-08-18 01:10 +0200
      Re: A minimalist network Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2016-08-18 01:40 +0200
  Re: A minimalist network David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2016-08-18 03:10 +0200
    Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-18 16:00 +0200
      Re: A minimalist network Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-08-18 16:10 +0200
        Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-19 14:50 +0200
          Re: A minimalist network <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2016-08-19 15:10 +0200
            Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-19 15:50 +0200
              Re: A minimalist network David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-08-19 19:50 +0200
          Re: A minimalist network Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-08-19 16:00 +0200
            Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-19 16:00 +0200
              Re: A minimalist network Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-19 17:00 +0200
                Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-19 19:40 +0200
                Re: A minimalist network Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-08-19 21:20 +0200
                Re: A minimalist network Mike McClain <mike.junk@copper.net> - 2016-08-20 08:40 +0200
                Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-20 13:30 +0200
          Re: A minimalist network Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2016-08-20 22:00 +0200
      Re: A minimalist network rhkramer@gmail.com - 2016-08-18 17:10 +0200
        Re: A minimalist network Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org> - 2016-08-18 17:30 +0200
          RE: A minimalist network Bonno Bloksma <b.bloksma@tio.nl> - 2016-08-19 12:20 +0200
        Re: A minimalist network Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-18 17:40 +0200
        Re: A minimalist network Tim McDonough <tmcdonough@gmail.com> - 2016-08-18 17:50 +0200
        Re: A minimalist network David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-08-18 18:10 +0200
          Re: A minimalist network Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2016-08-18 19:00 +0200
      Re: A minimalist network Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-18 17:40 +0200
      Re: A minimalist network David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2016-08-18 21:00 +0200
        Re: A minimalist network David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-08-18 21:30 +0200
        Re: A minimalist network David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-08-18 21:40 +0200
        Re: A minimalist network Charlie Kravetz <cjk@teamcharliesangels.com> - 2016-08-18 22:40 +0200
          Re: A minimalist network Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-18 23:20 +0200
            Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-19 15:00 +0200
              Re: A minimalist network Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-19 16:00 +0200
                Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-19 16:10 +0200
                Re: A minimalist network Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-19 16:50 +0200
                Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-19 20:00 +0200
                Re: A minimalist network Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2016-08-19 17:50 +0200
                Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-19 20:10 +0200
          Re: A minimalist network Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-08-18 23:20 +0200

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