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On 2014-03-17, Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
>> In article <20140317133233.c15fa1ba.rsw@therandymon.com>, RS Wood
>> <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 13:32:44 +0100
>>> Dag-Erling Smørgrav <des@des.no> wrote:
>>>>> RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> writes:
>>>>> Or rather, that "Rich Text" is as "low" as you should go.  OSX seems
>>>>> to prefer RichText as a lowest common denominator, which for most
>>>>> purposes, is probably correct and even helpful.
>>>>>> The lowest common denominator is always 1 (for numbers) or plain text
>>>> (for text formatting).  Perhaps you mean s/lowest/greatest/?
>> 
>>> No, I mean that the developers of OSX choose RichText for *their* lowest
>>> common denominator, thinking "why would anyone ever want plain text?" >
>>> Whereas, for Usenet, plain text is the correct format.  That would explain
>>> why OSX would facilitate rich text format in things like copy-paste.
>>> Unix on the other hands prefers plain text, as do I, in a nice, ugly,
>>> monospaced font :)
>> 
>> WTF are you talking about? It sounds to me like you're talking utter,
>> utter shite.
>
>
> Actually he is on the right track.  When you copy formatted text in OS X
> the OS will attempt to preserve the formatting.  If you paste the text into
> an NSTextField (or whatever they are calling it now) which is capable of
> holding formatted text, the OS will format the text so as to best match the
> formatting of the source.

The problem with that for me is that I usually want the paste to match the
style of the target, not the source.  What I too often end up doing is
a paste - dammit wrong format - Undo - Paste and Match Style.  The keyboard
shortcut for that is shift-alt-command-V which I never remember (not sure
it's consistent across apps but might be), so I use the menus.

A tip I found recently was to swap the shortcut keys around so that
command-V gives Paste and Match Style, and the complex one does a paste with
source format.  Must see if I can dig that out and see how well it works
in practice.

> I know this sounds crazy, most OSs and windowing environments have such
> primitive clipboards that it seems like magic, but this is old 80s tech
> developed in Nextstep.

The default is more suitable for things like DTP than my usage, so I see
where it might have come from.

-- 
Paul Sture

"In that case," said Napoleon, "let us wait twenty minutes; when the enemy
is making a false movement we must take good care not to interrupt him."

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  Re: Imagine a geodesic rotating array of orbiting servers Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-13 14:21 -0700
    Re: Imagine a geodesic rotating array of orbiting servers Andy Burns <usenet.feb2014@adslpipe.co.uk> - 2014-03-13 22:47 +0000
      Re: Imagine a geodesic rotating array of orbiting servers Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-13 15:50 -0700
        Re: Imagine a geodesic rotating array of orbiting servers Rich <rich@example.com> - 2014-03-14 01:43 +0000
        Re: Imagine a geodesic rotating array of orbiting servers greymausg <maus@mail.com> - 2014-03-14 11:55 +0000
        Re: Imagine a geodesic rotating array of orbiting servers RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-03-14 19:35 +0000
          Re: Imagine a geodesic rotating array of orbiting servers Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-14 13:24 -0700
            Unison RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-03-14 21:52 +0000
              Re: Unison RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-03-15 14:57 +0000
                Re: Unison Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-16 18:16 -0700
                Re: Unison RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-03-17 11:31 +0000
                Re: Unison Dag-Erling Smørgrav <des@des.no> - 2014-03-17 13:32 +0100
                Re: Unison RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-03-17 13:32 +0000
                Re: Unison Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-17 17:57 +0000
                Re: Unison Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-17 18:19 +0000
                Re: Unison Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-17 20:01 +0000
                Re: Unison Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-17 21:15 +0000
                Re: Unison Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-17 21:29 +0000
                Re: Unison Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-17 21:37 +0000
                Re: Unison Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-18 15:20 +0000
                Re: Unison Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-18 19:14 +0000
                Re: Unison Rob Myers <rob@robmyers.org> - 2014-03-18 20:01 +0000
                Re: Unison Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-18 23:11 +0000
                Re: Unison Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-03-19 22:18 +0100
                Re: Unison Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-03-19 23:14 +0100
                Re: Unison Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-19 23:04 +0000

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