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Re: Ursula is gettin' rude

From "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org>
Newsgroups ger.ct
Subject Re: Ursula is gettin' rude
Date 2021-03-18 15:19 +0100
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Am 18.03.21 um 15:08 schrieb Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara:
> Salve allerseits,

>> Nicht mal BioNTech kriegen sie jetzt noch... Pech gehabt. Frechheit
>> siegt nicht immer.
>>
> +--- <hier abknabbern> ---
> | Beim Ringen um Impfstoffe leidet Europa auch nicht unter dem bösen
> | Ausland, sondern an den Folgen der eigenen Dummheit und des eigenen
> | Geizes: Die EU hat von einigen Stoffen zu wenig bestellt, aber vom
> | falschen zu viel. Vor allem hat sie extrem spät bestellt und sich dann
> | noch Zeit gelassen bei der Zulassung. Also erhalten andere Regionen
> | schneller ihre Dosen.
> +--- </hier abknabbern> ---
> 
> ©<https://www.zeit.de/2021/12/usa-china-wirtschaft-beziehung-handelskrieg-europa>
> 
> 	M.f.G.
> 


"Unfortunately, that the EU threatens to block vaccine exports to us was 
utterly predictable. And it could have been avoided.

What few recognized was how much our vaccination programme depends on 
deliveries from the EU: 10 million in the last six weeks alone and it is 
reasonable to assume that there were millions of doses coming from them 
in January. It amounts to at least a third of the doses we administered, 
likely much more.

Our government failed to acknowledge this dependency. Instead, they told 
us how much Brexit is vindicated by the success of their vaccination 
programme. On every occasion, they heightened tensions with the EU. And 
of course, they made sure no vaccines left the UK.

We shouldn't be surprised that the EU starts playing by the same logic. 
The kept sticking to free trade but gained nothing other than ridicule, 
gloating and a frustrated populace. What did our government expect the 
EU to do? Our government was in a similarly dire situation not that long 
ago and they reacted with a "UK first" approach. The EU too have a 
population to protect. They too have to show they can deliver.

That is politics and it must have been clear to our government. If they 
had chosen a more cooperative approach and allowed AZ to export some 
vaccines, we would still have gotten more from the EU than we would have 
given them. We would still be far ahead. And we would not be at risk of 
loosing a substantial amount of vaccines in the coming weeks."

Guardian.

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Ursula is gettin' rude "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2021-03-17 17:00 +0100
  Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2021-03-17 12:32 -0400
    Re: Ursula is gettin' rude "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2021-03-17 17:40 +0100
      Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2021-03-17 09:46 -0700
      Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2021-03-17 12:51 -0400
        Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2021-03-17 17:57 +0100
          Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2021-03-17 13:05 -0400
            Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2021-03-17 18:10 +0100
              Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2021-03-17 13:20 -0400
                Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2021-03-17 18:31 +0100
                Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2021-03-17 13:38 -0400
                Re: Ursula is gettin' rude "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2021-03-17 18:54 +0100
                Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2021-03-17 14:02 -0400
                Re: Ursula is gettin' rude "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2021-03-17 19:13 +0100
                Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2021-03-17 14:28 -0400
                Re: Ursula is gettin' rude "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2021-03-17 19:32 +0100
                Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2021-03-17 14:47 -0400
                Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2021-03-17 19:48 +0100
                Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2021-03-17 15:03 -0400
                Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2021-03-17 15:11 -0400
                Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2021-03-17 15:34 -0400
                Re: Ursula is gettin' rude "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2021-03-17 20:45 +0100
                Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2021-03-17 15:52 -0400
                Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2021-03-17 15:03 -0700
                Re: Ursula is gettin' rude "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2021-03-18 08:37 +0100
                Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2021-03-18 01:24 -0700
                Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2021-03-18 08:13 -0400
                Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2021-03-18 07:59 -0400
                Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2021-03-17 20:13 +0100
                Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2021-03-17 15:18 -0400
                Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2021-03-17 20:21 +0100
                Re: Ursula is gettin' rude "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2021-03-17 20:44 +0100
                Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2021-03-17 16:02 -0400
                Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2021-03-17 15:48 -0400
                Re: Ursula is gettin' rude "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2021-03-17 20:50 +0100
                Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2021-03-18 10:08 -0400
                Re: Ursula is gettin' rude "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2021-03-18 15:19 +0100
                Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> - 2021-03-18 16:58 +0100
                Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2021-03-18 13:26 -0400
                Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2021-03-18 13:23 -0400
                Re: Ursula is gettin' rude "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2021-03-17 20:56 +0100
                Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2021-03-17 12:26 -0700
                Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2021-03-17 10:39 -0700
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            Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2021-03-17 15:28 -0400
          Re: Ursula is gettin' rude "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2021-03-17 18:32 +0100
            Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2021-03-17 13:43 -0400
              Re: Ursula is gettin' rude "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2021-03-17 18:57 +0100
                Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2021-03-17 14:08 -0400
                Re: Ursula is gettin' rude "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2021-03-17 19:14 +0100
                Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2021-03-17 14:39 -0400
                Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2021-03-17 12:28 -0700
        Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2021-03-17 10:00 -0700
      Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2021-03-17 13:01 -0400
        Re: Ursula is gettin' rude "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2021-03-17 18:36 +0100
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            Re: Ursula is gettin' rude "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2021-03-17 19:01 +0100
              Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2021-03-17 14:10 -0400
                Re: Ursula is gettin' rude "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2021-03-17 19:15 +0100
                Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2021-03-17 14:56 -0400
                Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2021-03-17 12:33 -0700
                Re: Ursula is gettin' rude "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2021-03-17 20:46 +0100
                Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2021-03-17 16:14 -0400
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                Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2021-03-17 20:47 +0000
                Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2021-03-17 18:36 -0400
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              Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> - 2021-03-17 23:48 +0100
                Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2021-03-17 18:56 -0400
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                Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> - 2021-03-18 04:04 +0100
                Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2021-03-17 23:05 -0700
                Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2021-03-18 07:52 -0400
                Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2021-03-18 04:59 -0700
                Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2021-03-18 08:18 -0400
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        Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2021-03-17 15:07 -0400
        Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Martin Ebert <mx300@gmx.net> - 2021-03-17 22:40 +0100
          Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2021-03-17 18:47 -0400
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        Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Claus D. Arnold <cdanews@arcor.de> - 2021-03-18 13:12 +0100
          Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Claus D. Arnold <cdanews@arcor.de> - 2021-03-19 11:25 +0100
            Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Bernd Schwegmann <alboran@ewetel.net> - 2021-03-19 14:44 +0100
      Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2021-03-19 12:38 -0400
        Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2021-03-19 09:44 -0700
        Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2021-03-19 18:30 +0100
          Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2021-03-19 15:44 -0400
            Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2021-03-19 19:57 +0000
              Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2021-03-19 16:10 -0400
              Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Frank Klingenhoefer <frank.private@t-online.de> - 2021-03-19 20:24 +0000
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                Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2021-03-19 20:36 +0000
                Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2021-03-19 16:55 -0400
              Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Carlo XYZ <carloxyz@invalid.invalid> - 2021-03-19 21:39 +0100
                Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2021-03-19 20:53 +0000
                Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2021-03-19 17:21 -0400
              Re: Ursula is gettin' rude Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2021-03-19 23:01 +0100
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                Re: Ursula is gettin' rude "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2021-03-20 14:10 +0100
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