Re: [PATCH v2 0/4] Patches to allow consistent mmc / mmcblk numbering w/ device tree

From	Doug Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>
Newsgroups	linux.kernel
Subject	Re: [PATCH v2 0/4] Patches to allow consistent mmc / mmcblk numbering w/ device tree
Date	2016-04-29 21:50 +0200
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Russell,

On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Russell King - ARM Linux
<linux@arm.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 10:32:15AM -0700, Douglas Anderson wrote:
>> This series picks patches from various different places to produce what
>> I consider the best solution to getting consistent mmc and mmcblk
>> ordering.
>>
>> Why consistent ordering and why not just use UUIDs?  IMHO consistent
>> ordering solves a few different problems:
>
> NAK.  Really.  Use UUIDs, that's the proper solution here.

Un-NAK.  UUIDs don't solve point #1.

> Exactly the same issue arises if you have more than one ATA or SCSI
> adapter in your PC - things can be probed out of order and end up
> in different /dev/sd* slots.

Yup, UUIDs are awesome and great and super.  Best invention since
sliced bread, really.  I definitely _won't_ submit a patch to remove
UUID support.  I promise.

A few notes, though:

* Presumably on a PC you've got an extra bit in the middle (like grub
or something like that) that can help you resolve your UUIDs even if
you get your kernel from somewhere else.  In my case, I don't have
that.  Maybe this is a failing of coreboot / depthcharge's netboot and
I suppose.  ...and I suppose I could modify the BIOS to take a root
filesystem of "eMMC" and have it resolve that to the eMMC's UUID or
something like that.  ...or I just take these patches locally and
things keep working like they did before.

* Presumably in the non-embedded world kernel hackers have a different
workflow.  They probably don't swap between different devices with
different configurations on an hourly basis.  They're not in the habit
of totally reimaging their system periodically.  Etc.  Trying to force
the workflow of a PC kernel hacker and an embedded kernel hacker to be
the same doesn't seem like a worthwhile goal.

* Presumably an embedded kernel hacker running with ATA / SCSI could
_usually_ assume that "sda" is his/her root filesystem.  It's unlikely
an embedded system would have more than one "sda" disk builtin and
it's nearly guaranteed (I think) that a builtin ATA / SCSI controller
would probe before any USB based devices.  Sure, if your root
filesystem is USB based (really?) and you've got additional USB
storage devices then you're SOL.  Sorry.

-Doug

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[PATCH v2 0/4] Patches to allow consistent mmc / mmcblk numbering w/ device tree Douglas Anderson <dianders@chromium.org> - 2016-04-29 19:40 +0200
  [PATCH v2 1/4] Documentation: mmc: Document mmc aliases Douglas Anderson <dianders@chromium.org> - 2016-04-29 19:40 +0200
  [PATCH v2 2/4] mmc: read mmc alias from device tree Douglas Anderson <dianders@chromium.org> - 2016-04-29 19:40 +0200
  [PATCH v2 4/4] ARM: dts: rockchip: Add mmc aliases for rk3288 platform Douglas Anderson <dianders@chromium.org> - 2016-04-29 19:40 +0200
  Re: [PATCH v2 0/4] Patches to allow consistent mmc / mmcblk numbering  w/ device tree Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org> - 2016-04-29 20:20 +0200
    Re: [PATCH v2 0/4] Patches to allow consistent mmc / mmcblk numbering  w/ device tree Doug Anderson <dianders@chromium.org> - 2016-04-29 21:40 +0200
      Re: [PATCH v2 0/4] Patches to allow consistent mmc / mmcblk  numbering w/ device tree Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> - 2016-04-29 22:00 +0200
        Re: [PATCH v2 0/4] Patches to allow consistent mmc / mmcblk numbering  w/ device tree Doug Anderson <dianders@chromium.org> - 2016-04-29 22:10 +0200
  Re: [PATCH v2 0/4] Patches to allow consistent mmc / mmcblk  numbering w/ device tree Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> - 2016-04-29 20:20 +0200
    Re: [PATCH v2 0/4] Patches to allow consistent mmc / mmcblk numbering  w/ device tree Doug Anderson <dianders@chromium.org> - 2016-04-29 21:50 +0200
      Re: [PATCH v2 0/4] Patches to allow consistent mmc / mmcblk  numbering w/ device tree Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> - 2016-04-29 22:00 +0200
        Re: [PATCH v2 0/4] Patches to allow consistent mmc / mmcblk numbering  w/ device tree Doug Anderson <dianders@chromium.org> - 2016-04-29 22:10 +0200
          Re: [PATCH v2 0/4] Patches to allow consistent mmc / mmcblk numbering  w/ device tree Doug Anderson <dianders@chromium.org> - 2016-04-29 23:20 +0200
            Re: [PATCH v2 0/4] Patches to allow consistent mmc / mmcblk numbering  w/ device tree Doug Anderson <dianders@chromium.org> - 2016-04-29 23:40 +0200
              Re: [PATCH v2 0/4] Patches to allow consistent mmc / mmcblk  numbering w/ device tree Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> - 2016-04-30 00:00 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v2 0/4] Patches to allow consistent mmc / mmcblk numbering  w/ device tree Doug Anderson <dianders@chromium.org> - 2016-04-30 00:00 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v2 0/4] Patches to allow consistent mmc / mmcblk  numbering w/ device tree Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> - 2016-04-30 00:20 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v2 0/4] Patches to allow consistent mmc / mmcblk numbering  w/ device tree Doug Anderson <dianders@chromium.org> - 2016-04-30 00:30 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v2 0/4] Patches to allow consistent mmc / mmcblk  numbering w/ device tree Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> - 2016-04-30 00:50 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v2 0/4] Patches to allow consistent mmc / mmcblk numbering  w/ device tree Doug Anderson <dianders@chromium.org> - 2016-04-30 01:10 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v2 0/4] Patches to allow consistent mmc / mmcblk numbering  w/ device tree Peter Hurley <peter@hurleysoftware.com> - 2016-04-30 02:00 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v2 0/4] Patches to allow consistent mmc / mmcblk numbering  w/ device tree Peter Hurley <peter@hurleysoftware.com> - 2016-04-30 02:40 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v2 0/4] Patches to allow consistent mmc / mmcblk numbering  w/ device tree Doug Anderson <dianders@chromium.org> - 2016-04-30 04:30 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v2 0/4] Patches to allow consistent mmc / mmcblk  numbering w/ device tree Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> - 2016-04-30 10:40 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v2 0/4] Patches to allow consistent mmc / mmcblk numbering  w/ device tree Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org> - 2016-04-30 15:30 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v2 0/4] Patches to allow consistent mmc / mmcblk numbering  w/ device tree Javier Martinez Canillas <javier@dowhile0.org> - 2016-04-30 00:50 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v2 0/4] Patches to allow consistent mmc / mmcblk  numbering w/ device tree Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> - 2016-04-30 12:50 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v2 0/4] Patches to allow consistent mmc / mmcblk numbering  w/ device tree Trent Piepho <tpiepho@kymetacorp.com> - 2016-05-03 21:30 +0200
            Re: [PATCH v2 0/4] Patches to allow consistent mmc / mmcblk  numbering w/ device tree Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> - 2016-04-29 23:40 +0200
          Re: [PATCH v2 0/4] Patches to allow consistent mmc / mmcblk  numbering w/ device tree Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> - 2016-04-29 23:20 +0200
    Re: [PATCH v2 0/4] Patches to allow consistent mmc / mmcblk  numbering w/ device tree Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> - 2016-05-04 09:20 +0200
      Re: [PATCH v2 0/4] Patches to allow consistent mmc / mmcblk numbering  w/ device tree Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org> - 2016-05-04 14:30 +0200
        Re: [PATCH v2 0/4] Patches to allow consistent mmc / mmcblk  numbering w/ device tree Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> - 2016-05-04 14:50 +0200

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