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| From | Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> |
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| Newsgroups | ger.ct |
| Subject | Re: PERMA BAN! |
| Date | 2021-01-09 20:21 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <rtd38s$jjq$1@solani.org> (permalink) |
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Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> wrote: > Salve allerseits, > > Bernd Ullrich schrieb: >> Am 09.01.2021 um 17:23 schrieb Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara: >>> Michael Zink schrieb: >>>> On Sat, 9 Jan 2021 00:35:09 +0000 (UTC), Christian Schumacher wrote: >>>> >>>>> Was nun in den allerletzten Tagen einigermaßen witzlos ist. >>>> >>>> Wieso? Es geht doch AFAIK um den Account von Donald, nicht um den des >>>> POTUS. Ohne die Sperrung könnte er also weiterhin Unsinn verbreiten. >> >>> Eine Verständnisfrage am Rande: Seit wann ist es nicht mehr erlaubt, >>> Unsinn zu verbreiten? Unsere freiheitlich-demokratische Grundordnung >>> garantiert schließlich einen jeden von uns das Recht Unsinn zu >>> verbreiten... ༼ ºل͟º ༽ >> >> In der "freiheitlich-demokratische Grundordnung" ist nicht festgelegt >> dass irrgenntwelche Medien Scheiss verbreiten "müssen". >> > Chlor! Just, weil unsere freiheitlich-demokratische Grundordnung > lediglich vorgibt, wann und wieso eine Meinung unterdrückt werden > darf! Nämlich immer dann, wenn ein Gesetz oder ein Gerichtsurteil das > so zwingend festschreibt... ♒((⇀‸↼))♒ > > M.f.G. > https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/09/us/first-amendment-free-speech.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage WASHINGTON — When Simon & Schuster canceled its plans this week to publish Senator Josh Hawley’s book, he called the action “a direct assault on the First Amendment.” And when Twitter permanently banned President Trump’s account on Friday, his family and his supporters said similar things. “We are living Orwell’s 1984,” Donald Trump Jr. said — on Twitter. “Free-speech no longer exists in America.” The companies’ decisions may have been unwise, scholars who study the First Amendment said, but they were perfectly lawful. That is because the First Amendment prohibits government censorship and does not apply to decisions made by private businesses. It is certainly possible to violate the values embodied in the First Amendment without violating the First Amendment itself. But the basic legal question could hardly be more straightforward, said RonNell Andersen Jones, a law professor at the University of Utah. And, she said, it should not have been lost on Mr. Hawley, who graduated from Yale Law School and served as a law clerk to Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. “It’s become popular — even among those who plainly know better — to label all matters restricting anyone’s speech as a ‘First Amendment issue,’” she said. “But the First Amendment limits only government actors, and neither a social media company nor a book publisher is the government. Indeed, they enjoy their own First Amendment rights not to have the government require them to associate with speech when they prefer not to do so.” -- please forgive my iPhone typos
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PERMA BAN! Mike Grantz <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-09 01:18 +0100
Re: PERMA BAN! Christian Schumacher <cs.spam@nurfuerspam.de> - 2021-01-09 00:35 +0000
Re: PERMA BAN! Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2021-01-09 07:47 -0500
Re: PERMA BAN! Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2021-01-09 16:56 +0100
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Re: PERMA BAN! Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2021-01-10 11:33 +0100
Re: PERMA BAN! Christian Schumacher <cs.spam@nurfuerspam.de> - 2021-01-10 19:22 +0000
Re: PERMA BAN! Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2021-01-11 12:59 +0100
Re: PERMA BAN! Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2021-01-11 13:39 -0800
Re: PERMA BAN! Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2021-01-12 10:14 +0100
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Re: PERMA BAN! Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2021-01-13 09:08 -0500
Re: PERMA BAN! Martin Ebert <mx300@gmx.net> - 2021-01-11 02:08 +0100
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Re: PERMA BAN! Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2021-01-10 12:50 +0100
Re: PERMA BAN! Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2021-01-10 04:50 -0800
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Re: PERMA BAN! Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2021-01-10 19:16 +0100
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Re: PERMA BAN! Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2021-01-13 10:29 +0100
Re: PERMA BAN! Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2021-01-13 10:22 +0100
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Re: PERMA BAN! "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2021-01-13 09:37 +0100
Re: PERMA BAN! Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2021-01-13 10:21 +0100
Re: PERMA BAN! Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2021-01-09 11:23 -0500
Re: PERMA BAN! Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2021-01-09 12:47 -0500
Re: PERMA BAN! Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2021-01-09 14:00 -0500
Re: PERMA BAN! Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2021-01-09 19:10 +0000
Re: PERMA BAN! Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2021-01-09 14:23 -0500
Re: PERMA BAN! Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2021-01-09 19:38 +0000
Re: PERMA BAN! Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2021-01-09 12:07 -0800
Re: PERMA BAN! Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2021-01-09 12:05 -0800
Re: PERMA BAN! Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2021-01-09 20:21 +0000
Re: PERMA BAN! Mike Grantz <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-09 22:32 +0100
Re: PERMA BAN! Mike Grantz <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-09 22:37 +0100
Re: PERMA BAN! Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2021-01-09 13:42 -0800
Re: PERMA BAN! Martin Ebert <mx300@gmx.net> - 2021-01-10 02:07 +0100
Re: PERMA BAN! "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2021-01-09 07:12 +0100
Re: PERMA BAN! Mike Grantz <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-09 09:17 +0100
Re: PERMA BAN! Carlo XYZ <carloxyz@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-09 11:12 +0100
Re: PERMA BAN! Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2021-01-09 02:24 -0800
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Re: PERMA BAN! Martin Ebert <mx300@gmx.net> - 2021-01-10 03:14 +0100
Re: PERMA BAN! Mike Grantz <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-10 03:41 +0100
Re: PERMA BAN! Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2021-01-10 02:26 -0800
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Re: PERMA BAN! Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2021-01-10 01:11 -0800
Re: PERMA BAN! Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2021-01-10 11:29 +0100
Re: PERMA BAN! Mike Grantz <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-10 18:54 +0100
Re: PERMA BAN! Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2021-01-10 10:12 -0800
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Re: PERMA BAN! Martin Ebert <mx300@gmx.net> - 2021-01-10 03:19 +0100
PERMA BAN! Update (was:Re: PERMA BAN!) Mike Grantz <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-09 22:37 +0100
Re: PERMA BAN! Update Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2021-01-10 07:28 -0800
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Re: PERMA BAN! Update (was:Re: PERMA BAN!) Mike Grantz <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-10 19:19 +0100
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Re: PERMA BAN! Update (was:Re: PERMA BAN!) Mike Grantz <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-10 21:57 +0100
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