Re: SD memory

From	sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
Newsgroups	comp.mobile.android
Subject	Re: SD memory
Date	2021-01-05 08:24 -0800
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On 1/4/2021 9:55 PM, The Real Bev wrote:

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> I didn't realize the Pixel2 had no headphone jack; I probably would
> have bought it anyway, though, and I bought an adapter -- which I
> haven't used yet. The Pixel phone sound is fine, but music from the
> speakers is ludicrous; you'd think they would have put better speakers
> in, but they didn't. It's fine from the earphones, though.

Speakers on lower-end and mid-range phones tend to not be very good. I
used to use an LG Stylo 3 Plus, it was okay but the speaker was poor and
even though I wasn't doing gaming the phone lagged due to its slow
processor in some uses, especially when Bluetooth was being used. As one
reviewer wrote: "The two things I'm not crazy about are the sound
quality of the speaker... The speaker sounds very tinny/hollow.. if you
listen to 1940's music it would sound great...anything else sounds very
bad." Ironically, the flagship LG phones reportedly have the highest
quality sound, better than Samsung and better than Apple, but of course
no manufacturer wants to hurt sales of their flagship phones by making
their budget phones too good.

Finding phones with both a headphone jack and a Micro SD card slot is
becoming more difficult. I replaced my wife's Moto X4 with a Samsung
S10E ($425) recently, and it still has both. Then my sister also wanted
an S10E and found that the price had gone up significantly because it
had been discontinued but was still in high demand. But she paid the
price ($525) from her carrier to get it.

My sister said she wasn't picky then when I began asking her what
features she wanted it became clear that she was actually quite picky
because she expected the new phone to have all the features of her old
Samsung Galaxy S7, and more. And she wanted a smallish phone while most
Android flagships are largeish.

Her requirements:
● Works on Verizon (she lives in rural North Carolina and Verizon is
the only carrier with adequate coverage).
● Fast charging
● Fingerprint Reader
● Micro SD card slot
● Headphone jack
● Stereo speakers
● NFC
● Good cameras
● "Smallish"

When I explained what the following were, she wanted those too, though
none of them were absolute requirements:
● Wireless charging
● IP68
● Magnetic Secure Technology

What she never used was:
● FM Radio (though the S10E does have it)

A lot of lower-end phones leave off stuff like NFC, stereo speakers, and
IP68 (or even IP67). Motorola is maddening with regards to NFC, they'll
often include it in budget phones sold outside the U.S. and leave it off
on versions sold in the U.S., models like the Moto G Stylus, G Power, G
Fast. and G7
<https://www.theverge.com/2019/4/10/18304664/motorola-moto-g7-power-play-review-budget-affordable-android-phones>.
NFC is a feature that people care about a lot more these days due to the
pandemic, but there are other advantages to it as well, since many
credit cards give higher rewards for mobile wallet purchases than for
physical card purchases.

Of course iPhones were out of the question since other than the SE 2020
they lack a fingerprint reader, and none of them have memory card slots
or headphone jacks. Personally, for a small phone I like the iPhone 12
Mini despite these features not being present. With enough built-in
memory the need for a MicroSD card is lessened (though there are still
some advantages), and living with a dongle for analog headphones is
annoying but not a deal breaker. The lack of a fingerprint reader is a
real pain during these times with having to wear masks in stores, but
this will be over hopefully in six months. The iPhone 13 will reportedly
bring back fingerprint readers at least on some of the models
<https://tech.hindustantimes.com/mobile/news/apple-may-bring-back-touchid-fingerprint-scanner-back-in-iphone-13-but-with-a-twist-71607863096832.html>.

My sister-in-law went from a Samsung Galaxy S7 to an iPhone 8 Plus a
couple of years ago and complained incessantly over one Android feature
that is missing from all iPhones: separate volume settings for ringer
and notifications. She asked me to show her how to do this and after
some research I found, incredibly, that it was not possible, other than
doing a funky workaround of adding a ringtone that was at low-volume and
using that when she needed to be able to get notifications but didn't
want a loud ringer. She didn't believe me that it wasn't possible and
went to an Apple Store and asked at the Genius Bar, but they gave her
the same suggestion and told her that a lot of people have asked the
same question! The answers at
<https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/7fuz5t/apple_when_can_we_have_independend_volume/>
were pretty funny. She still complains about it and I told her that she
should just go back to Android if this is so important!

I'm beginning to be okay with losing the Micro SD card on flagship
phones with lots of internal memory though having a large memory card is
convenient in some situations regardless of internal memory.

Thread

SD memory Dieter Britz <dieterhansbritz@gmail.com> - 2021-01-02 14:21 +0000
  Re: SD memory Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2021-01-02 14:52 +0000
  Re: SD memory VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2021-01-02 09:09 -0600
    Re: SD memory Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-02 18:44 +0000
  Re: SD memory Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-02 18:44 +0000
  Re: SD memory The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-02 11:10 -0800
  Re: SD memory "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-02 20:32 +0100
    Re: SD memory VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2021-01-02 15:32 -0600
      Re: SD memory AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2021-01-02 14:51 -0700
        Re: SD memory VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2021-01-02 19:39 -0600
          Re: SD memory Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-03 20:37 +0000
        Re: SD memory Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-03 20:12 +0000
      Re: SD memory "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-02 22:52 +0100
        Re: SD memory VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2021-01-02 19:41 -0600
          Re: SD memory "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-03 13:56 +0100
          Re: SD memory Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-03 20:37 +0000
        Re: SD memory Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-03 20:12 +0000
          Re: SD memory The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-03 15:37 -0800
            Re: SD memory sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-04 09:35 -0800
              Re: SD memory The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-04 10:26 -0800
                Re: SD memory Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-04 21:21 +0000
                Re: SD memory Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-05 01:56 +0000
                Re: SD memory The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-04 21:55 -0800
                Re: SD memory "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-05 15:13 +0100
                Re: SD memory sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-05 08:29 -0800
                Re: SD memory  Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-05 17:24 +0000
                Re: SD memory AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2021-01-05 09:49 -0700
                Re: SD memory Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-05 17:28 +0000
                Re: SD memory The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-05 20:45 -0800
                Re: SD memory "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-06 14:13 +0100
                Re: SD memory sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-06 07:54 -0800
                Re: SD memory The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-06 09:33 -0800
                Re: SD memory sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-06 10:04 -0800
                Re: SD memory Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-05 14:21 +0000
                Re: SD memory The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-05 20:51 -0800
                Re: SD memory Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-06 14:04 +0000
                Re: SD memory sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-05 08:24 -0800
                Re: SD memory Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-05 17:21 +0000
          Re: SD memory "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-04 22:14 +0100
            Re: SD memory sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-04 15:56 -0800
              Re: SD memory  Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-05 02:04 +0000
              Re: SD memory The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-04 22:05 -0800
                Re: SD memory  Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-05 15:26 +0000
            Re: SD memory Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-05 01:51 +0000
              Re: SD memory Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-05 02:10 +0000
          Re: SD memory Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> - 2021-01-12 10:34 -0800
  Re: SD memory Dieter Britz <dieterhansbritz@gmail.com> - 2021-01-11 13:51 +0000
    Re: SD memory "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-11 15:23 +0100
    Re: SD memory VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2021-01-11 11:15 -0600

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