Re: SD memory

From	Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com>
Newsgroups	comp.mobile.android
Subject	Re: SD memory
Date	2021-01-05 14:21 +0000
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On Mon, 4 Jan 2021 21:55:48 -0800, The Real Bev wrote:

> I didn't realize the Pixel2 had no headphone jack;

Hi The Real Bev,

I got burned like that when I bought the Moto G and the Nexus 4, both of
which sucked due to the lack of the sd card (the Nexus 4 was so bad that
the gift recipient had me exchange it with T-Mobile for a Nexus 5, which
she hated, and which I inherited years later when she want to an iPhone).

Three crappy Apple hardware ploys can burn Android users when buying from a
company that follows Apple's "courageous" (& admittedly hugely successful
at profit margins) MARKETING moves.
1. Lack of a removable battery (which, unfortunately, is most phones now)
2. Lack of a headphone jack (luckily, almost zero Android phones do this)
3. Lack of an external sdcard (luckily, almost 0 Android phones do this)

Basically, Apple removed all this basic functionality so that the user has
to buy it back, often from Apple, which is the profit motive.

I don't blame Apple for being greedy; I blame its customers for being
gullible. Likewise, I don't blame Google for attempting to garner the
astoundingly huge profit margins Apple enjoys - but you just can't make
those profits off of gullible customers.

I hope you got that pixel at a good price, which is why I had bought the
$200 Moto G and the $250 Nexus 4 (which morphed to the $350 Nexus 5).

If it wasn't at a good price (for that time period), I would _never_ have
settled for the lack of the removable battery and sdcard slot.

Funnily enough, when the Nexus 4 recipient finally got an iPhone, as I
recall, it was a free iPhone 6 which at least retained the basic
functionality of a headphone jack - but - when I asked her about her
subsequent iPhone 7, she complained about the lack of that basic
functionality (as I recall, as it was years ago).

>  I probably would 
> have bought it anyway, though, and I bought an adapter -- which I 
> haven't used yet.  The Pixel phone sound is fine, but music from the 
> speakers is ludicrous;  you'd think they would have put better speakers 
> in, but they didn't.  It's fine from the earphones, though.

As I said, there are two truisms when it comes to Android OEMs following
Apple's (admittedly hugely profitable) sleazy tactic of removing basic
functionality so that the user is forced to buy it back.

1. Any Android OEM would _love_ to be able to capitalize on Apple's 
   "courageous" move to boldly remove basic functionality so that the 
   consumer is forced to buy it back. It's all about pure profit.

2. If the Android phone is inexpensive, it might be a tradeoff that makes
   financial sense, since you expect loss of functionality in cheaper 
   devices.

Luckily almost every Android device ever made (over 99.5%) has this basic
functionality, and I don't know the percentage which have sdcard slots, 
but it's so many that there's no good reason (other than if it's super 
cheap) to buy a phone that lacks the sdcard functionality either.

BTW, my $130 LG Stylo 3 Plus, which I loved but I gave it away to a kid who
fell in water with his, had all three of this basic functionality:
1. Headphone jack
2. sdcard slot
3. Removable battery

Even my $100 Moto G7, which replaced my Stylo has two of those things:
1. Headphone jack
2. sdcard slot

Interestingly, every phone I've owned in the past had NFC since at least my
Samsung Galaxy S3 days, _except_ this Moto G7, which doesn't have it.

Why?
o I don't know why.

The European version of the Moto G7 has NFC, for example, so it's just what
they did for MARKETING reasons in the USA. Luckily, I've had NFC for so
long I can't remember how long, and yet, I've never needed it. So, for me,
it's not a loss of functionality - but to others - it could be the same
game.

Here's the game (pioneered by Apple):
a. If there's basic functionality
b. That they can "courageously" remove
c. Then you're forced to buy it back
d. (often, from them)

That's the game, which, by the way, only the _huge_ OEMs can get away 
with (since they can have models that _do_ have the functionality, 
but at a higher cost, so that they can have a "good/better/best" MARKETING
strategy).

The only way I'd buy a phone that lacks basic functionality would be...
o If it's cheap

And it has to be cheaper than $100 since I can get basic functionality 
(I love my Moto G7) for about $100. For example, at $10, I might consider
an Android phone that lacks a headphone jack and an sdcard slot.
-- 
Posted to let people know what the MARKETING strategy is.

Thread

SD memory Dieter Britz <dieterhansbritz@gmail.com> - 2021-01-02 14:21 +0000
  Re: SD memory Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2021-01-02 14:52 +0000
  Re: SD memory VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2021-01-02 09:09 -0600
    Re: SD memory Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-02 18:44 +0000
  Re: SD memory Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-02 18:44 +0000
  Re: SD memory The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-02 11:10 -0800
  Re: SD memory "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-02 20:32 +0100
    Re: SD memory VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2021-01-02 15:32 -0600
      Re: SD memory AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2021-01-02 14:51 -0700
        Re: SD memory VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2021-01-02 19:39 -0600
          Re: SD memory Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-03 20:37 +0000
        Re: SD memory Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-03 20:12 +0000
      Re: SD memory "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-02 22:52 +0100
        Re: SD memory VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2021-01-02 19:41 -0600
          Re: SD memory "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-03 13:56 +0100
          Re: SD memory Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-03 20:37 +0000
        Re: SD memory Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-03 20:12 +0000
          Re: SD memory The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-03 15:37 -0800
            Re: SD memory sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-04 09:35 -0800
              Re: SD memory The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-04 10:26 -0800
                Re: SD memory Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-04 21:21 +0000
                Re: SD memory Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-05 01:56 +0000
                Re: SD memory The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-04 21:55 -0800
                Re: SD memory "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-05 15:13 +0100
                Re: SD memory sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-05 08:29 -0800
                Re: SD memory  Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-05 17:24 +0000
                Re: SD memory AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2021-01-05 09:49 -0700
                Re: SD memory Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-05 17:28 +0000
                Re: SD memory The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-05 20:45 -0800
                Re: SD memory "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-06 14:13 +0100
                Re: SD memory sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-06 07:54 -0800
                Re: SD memory The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-06 09:33 -0800
                Re: SD memory sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-06 10:04 -0800
                Re: SD memory Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-05 14:21 +0000
                Re: SD memory The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-05 20:51 -0800
                Re: SD memory Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-06 14:04 +0000
                Re: SD memory sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-05 08:24 -0800
                Re: SD memory Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-05 17:21 +0000
          Re: SD memory "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-04 22:14 +0100
            Re: SD memory sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-04 15:56 -0800
              Re: SD memory  Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-05 02:04 +0000
              Re: SD memory The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-04 22:05 -0800
                Re: SD memory  Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-05 15:26 +0000
            Re: SD memory Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-05 01:51 +0000
              Re: SD memory Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-05 02:10 +0000
          Re: SD memory Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> - 2021-01-12 10:34 -0800
  Re: SD memory Dieter Britz <dieterhansbritz@gmail.com> - 2021-01-11 13:51 +0000
    Re: SD memory "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-11 15:23 +0100
    Re: SD memory VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2021-01-11 11:15 -0600

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