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Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA?

From sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
Newsgroups comp.mobile.android, misc.phone.mobile.iphone
Subject Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA?
Date 2021-01-04 17:58 -0800
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <rt0h4c$cdq$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)
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On 1/4/2021 2:46 PM, JF Mezei wrote:
> On 2021-01-04 12:20, nospam wrote:
> 
>> there is no loss of coverage for sprint subscribers.
>>
>> their coverage is actually *better* since it's now a combination of
>> *both* sprint and t-mobile.
> 
> 
> When Rogers bought Fido/Microcell in Canada, I lost coverage at home.
> 
> Fido was 1900 only (early PCS). My handset (GSM) was 1900 only.

When Pac Bell Wireless in California started up it was 1900 MHz only and 
they were supplying 1900 Mhz only phones. They were charging 
significantly lower prices than Cingular, AT&T, and Verizon, and they 
got a lot of new customers which quickly caused capacity issues.

Pac Bell got bought by SBC/Cingular and sold their 1900 MHz network to 
T-Mobile.

<snip>

> So in the case of Sprint/T-Mobile, while the maps will show increased
> coverage, there is no garantee that when one of 2 antennas is turned off
> in a neighbourhood, the signal strength will be as good as before
> everywhere in that neighbourhood depending on location of remainibng
> tower and orientation/elevation of antennas on the tower.  Sometimes,
> the decision on which tower to keep is based more on real estate than
> network coverage (the better one costs too much than the lesser one).

That's not the whole issue.

The big issue for Sprint customers is the loss of a tremendous amount of 
Verizon roaming most of which has not been replaced by T-Mobile coverage.

The T-Mobile customers never had that roaming, they had some roaming 
onto smaller carriers like U.S. Cellular but that didn't solve their 
coverage issues in areas where AT&T was the only GSM/LTE carrier.

The purchase of Sprint by T-Mobile was never about coverage. There are 
few areas where Sprint had native coverage but T-Mobile did not. The 
purchase was about getting more spectrum and acquiring all the Sprint 
customers.

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Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-03 21:55 +0000
  Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-03 22:06 +0000
    Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-04 01:05 +0000
      Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2021-01-04 13:24 +0000
        Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-04 08:48 -0500
          Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-04 17:07 +0000
            Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-04 12:20 -0500
              Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-04 19:56 +0000
        Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-04 16:39 +0000
        Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-04 09:05 -0800
          Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-04 12:20 -0500
            Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA?  Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-04 19:44 +0000
            Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2021-01-04 17:46 -0500
              Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-04 15:33 -0800
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-04 18:48 -0500
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-05 02:30 +0000
              Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-04 18:48 -0500
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2021-01-05 12:31 -0500
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-05 17:36 +0000
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-05 12:56 -0500
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-05 18:06 +0000
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2021-01-05 17:22 -0500
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-05 18:29 -0500
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2021-01-05 21:57 -0500
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-05 23:19 -0500
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-06 08:46 -0800
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-06 11:54 -0800
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-06 15:34 -0500
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA?  Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-06 20:46 +0000
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-06 20:58 +0000
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-05 17:46 -0800
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-05 21:23 -0500
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA?  Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-06 03:02 +0000
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-06 07:52 -0800
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-06 08:24 -0800
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA?  Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-06 16:28 +0000
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-06 12:11 -0500
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-06 17:43 +0000
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-06 13:41 -0500
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-06 20:54 +0000
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-05 10:30 -0800
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-05 13:45 -0500
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2021-01-05 18:53 +0000
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-05 11:27 -0800
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-05 14:57 -0500
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-05 19:30 +0000
              Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-04 17:58 -0800
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-05 02:35 +0000
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-04 21:44 -0500
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA?  Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-05 04:40 +0000
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2021-01-05 14:03 -0500
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-05 14:19 -0500
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-05 11:32 -0800
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-05 19:39 +0000
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-05 14:57 -0500
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2021-01-05 21:23 -0500
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-05 21:54 -0500
          Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-04 10:36 -0800
            Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-04 20:52 +0000
            Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-04 15:17 -0800
              Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-05 02:22 +0000
            Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-04 17:52 -0800
          Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-04 19:36 +0000

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