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| From | sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.mobile.android, misc.phone.mobile.iphone |
| Subject | Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? |
| Date | 2021-01-05 10:30 -0800 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <rt2b7j$vib$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
| References | (9 earlier) <rsvht1$f8p$1@dont-email.me> <040120211220482708%nospam@nospam.invalid> <iVMIH.35589$ay6.30055@fx03.iad> <040120211848429113%nospam@nospam.invalid> <An1JH.27089$rY1.15096@fx40.iad> |
Cross-posted to 2 groups.
On 1/5/2021 9:31 AM, JF Mezei wrote: <snip> > T-Mobile will be quick to start to rationalize the network. And in its > initial filings, indicated that it would retain some Sprint sites and > turn off some of its own, and vice-versa where both have coverage. Yes, that is what is happening. > Some may get better some may get worse coverage. (even though coverage > map does not change). The issue for former Sprint customers is not that they will lose any native coverage, quite the opposite, since T-Mobile's network is much larger than the old Sprint network, native coverage will increase. The issue is that the Sprint postpaid customers used to enjoy extensive Verizon roaming, and the maps show that that roaming is gone, with nothing replacing it. > Others have rightfully pointed that loss of Verizon roaming is a much > bigger aspect for Sprint customers. But that affects only Sprint ones. > The rationalization of the T-Mo and Sprint networks will affect > customers of both networks here and there. Exactly. But with the end of Verizon CDMA it's not clear how much roaming would have remained for Sprint customers anyway. Someone said that the Verizon roaming was only 2G & 3G (CDMA) and not LTE. But Sprint also had a long list (31) of LTE roaming partners, and it's not clear how many of those are also T-Mobile roaming partners, but some are. Verizon is the big loss in terms of Sprint coverage in rural areas in California. Anyway, thanks for correcting "nospam" and/or "Arlen Holder." Educating people about the relative coverage quality of the different carriers, in different areas, is something that a lot of people appreciate, especially people that are visiting the U.S. and don’t realize that buying a SIM card for use in the U.S. requires considerations that are likely not necessary in their own country. In the U.S., people tend to find out the differences for themselves pretty quickly, based on where they live and based on the places they travel to. For those that never travel outside the urban core, they can now pretty much get by with any of the three major carriers. It’s when they go to (or through) less populated areas, that there are issues, and a lot of tourists want to go to places like National Parks. I mention Yosemite and the Santa Cruz Mountain areas often because those are two places that I go to pretty often and where I’ve had people ask me how I’m able to use my phone when they are not. Also, over the years, the coverage situation in those areas has drastically changed, and not always for the better! T-Mobile and Sprint have lost a tremendous amount of as roaming agreements with AT&T and Verizon went away. T-Mobile has replaced some of the lost roaming coverage with their own cells, but in many areas where Sprint and T-Mobile subscribers formerly had roaming coverage T-Mobile still has no native coverage. T-Mobile promised that if the merger was approved that they would address rural coverage issues, but that is a very time-consuming and expensive undertaking and it gains the carrier very few new customers in the areas where they add coverage. I always advice T-Mobile customers to carry along a second phone that is on a Verizon MVNO when they travel outside urban areas. This is very inexpensive these days and it provides coverage in case of emergency. I.e. <https://www.ebay.com/itm/133196831828>. If they have a phone with an eSIM plus physical SIM they can put T-Mobile on the eSIM and the Verizon MVNO on the physical SIM and only need to carry one phone.
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Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-03 21:55 +0000
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-03 22:06 +0000
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-04 01:05 +0000
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2021-01-04 13:24 +0000
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-04 08:48 -0500
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-04 17:07 +0000
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-04 12:20 -0500
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-04 19:56 +0000
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-04 16:39 +0000
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-04 09:05 -0800
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-04 12:20 -0500
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-04 19:44 +0000
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2021-01-04 17:46 -0500
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-04 15:33 -0800
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-04 18:48 -0500
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-05 02:30 +0000
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-04 18:48 -0500
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2021-01-05 12:31 -0500
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-05 17:36 +0000
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-05 12:56 -0500
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-05 18:06 +0000
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2021-01-05 17:22 -0500
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-05 18:29 -0500
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2021-01-05 21:57 -0500
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-05 23:19 -0500
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-06 08:46 -0800
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-06 11:54 -0800
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-06 15:34 -0500
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-06 20:46 +0000
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-06 20:58 +0000
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-05 17:46 -0800
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-05 21:23 -0500
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-06 03:02 +0000
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-06 07:52 -0800
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-06 08:24 -0800
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-06 16:28 +0000
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-06 12:11 -0500
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-06 17:43 +0000
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-06 13:41 -0500
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-06 20:54 +0000
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-05 10:30 -0800
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-05 13:45 -0500
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2021-01-05 18:53 +0000
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-05 11:27 -0800
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-05 14:57 -0500
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-05 19:30 +0000
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-04 17:58 -0800
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-05 02:35 +0000
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-04 21:44 -0500
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-05 04:40 +0000
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2021-01-05 14:03 -0500
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-05 14:19 -0500
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-05 11:32 -0800
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-05 19:39 +0000
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-05 14:57 -0500
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2021-01-05 21:23 -0500
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-05 21:54 -0500
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-04 10:36 -0800
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-04 20:52 +0000
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-04 15:17 -0800
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-05 02:22 +0000
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-04 17:52 -0800
Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-04 19:36 +0000
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