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Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA?

From sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
Newsgroups comp.mobile.android, misc.phone.mobile.iphone
Subject Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA?
Date 2021-01-04 15:17 -0800
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <rt07mj$ncc$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)
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On 1/4/2021 10:36 AM, The Real Bev wrote:
> On 01/04/2021 09:05 AM, sms wrote:
> 
>> T-Mobile has very limited roaming onto AT&T which is what is most needed
>> in this area (Bay Area and most of California). This lack of roaming was
>> not always the case! T-Mobile coverage used to be a superset of T-Mobile
>> and AT&T coverage. Now T-Mobile has removed nearly all of the AT&T
>> roaming and vast areas of coverage have been lost.
> 
> Data points from a year ago:
> 
> No T-Mobile coverage on the slopes at Snow Summit (Verizon was good) 
> until you go perhaps half a mile west along Highway 18.  They just 
> priced themselves out of my market, so I'll be going to a FREE place 
> closer to civilization this year.
> 
> No coverage at all for T-Mobile or AT&T at Sequoia/King's Canyon NPs 
> until you get down out of the mountains.
> 
> 
> Cheers, Bev

Sounds like you go to the kinds of places we go to. Yes, Sequoia-Kings 
Canyon is an area, like Yosemite, where you really want to have Verizon 
coverage.

The “Mother Lode” area used to be Golden State Cellular which Verizon 
purchased. But that didn’t include Tulare and Fresno counties where 
Sequoia-Kings Canyon is located, I guess that those areas were always 
Verizon and Verizon just decided to spend the money on rural coverage. 
However I did stay once at Montecito-Sequoia Lodge 
<https://www.mslodge.com> and there was only Verizon coverage if you 
went up the hill behind the lodge, but they had Wi-Fi so Google Voice 
worked.

I was helping someone from Germany, at Best Buy, who wanted to buy a 
local SIM card for the duration of his vacation. He was looking at the 
assortment of prepaid SIM cards Best Buy sells, in bewilderment. I asked 
him what kind of places they would be visiting. His family wanted to 
visit several National Parks. He almost made the mistake of buying some 
of the $30 “T-Mobile Tourist SIM Kit” (no longer sold, see 
<https://www.bestbuy.com/site/t-mobile-30-tourist-sim-kit/6248603.p?skuId=6248603>). 
In Europe, all of the MVNOs have very good coverage (and their is 
roaming in all the EU countries, per EU agreement 
<https://ec.europa.eu/digital-single-market/en/faq/question-and-answers-roaming>) 
so it's not as critical when you choose a prepaid SIM, at least not 
based on coverage).

I had him check the IMEI of his iPhone at 
<https://www.totalwireless.com/activation/byop/collectesn?carrier=VZW> 
and then told him that buying the Total Wireless SIM card < 
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/total-wireless-keep-your-own-phone-sim/6407632.p> 
and the $35/5GB plan < 
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/total-wireless-35-unlimited-30-day-plan-digital/6386340.p> 
would be a much better option given his travel plans.

He bought four of the Total Wireless SIM cards and the family plan 
<https://www.bestbuy.com/site/total-wireless-100-unlimited-family-30-day-plan-card/6387447.p> 
so his whole family would have service during their month-long vacation, 
and added on the $10 Global Calling Card with rates to Germany of 
2-3¢/minute. $114 plus tax total, for a month--I don't recall how much 
data that plan had at the time, I think it was 60GB, now it's 100GB).

For short stays I recommend people buy the $10 Red Pocket Plan and 
activate on Verizon < https://www.redpocket.com/plans/add/M010> (as long 
as their phones pass the IMEI check for Verizon, if not I tell them to 
get Red Pocket buy activate on AT&T). Not all phones can be activated on 
Total Wireless or Red Pocket Verizon service because they lack CDMA 
support. Hopefully that restriction will soon be gone since Verizon 
supposedly has shut down CDMA.

Let’s hope that in the future “Arlen” uses referenced facts when he posts.

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Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-03 21:55 +0000
  Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-03 22:06 +0000
    Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-04 01:05 +0000
      Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2021-01-04 13:24 +0000
        Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-04 08:48 -0500
          Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-04 17:07 +0000
            Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-04 12:20 -0500
              Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-04 19:56 +0000
        Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-04 16:39 +0000
        Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-04 09:05 -0800
          Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-04 12:20 -0500
            Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA?  Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-04 19:44 +0000
            Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2021-01-04 17:46 -0500
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              Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-04 18:48 -0500
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2021-01-05 12:31 -0500
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-05 17:36 +0000
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-05 12:56 -0500
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-05 18:06 +0000
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                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2021-01-05 21:57 -0500
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                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA?  Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-06 20:46 +0000
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-06 20:58 +0000
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-05 17:46 -0800
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-05 21:23 -0500
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA?  Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-06 03:02 +0000
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-06 07:52 -0800
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-06 08:24 -0800
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA?  Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-06 16:28 +0000
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-06 12:11 -0500
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-06 17:43 +0000
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-06 13:41 -0500
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-06 20:54 +0000
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-05 10:30 -0800
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-05 13:45 -0500
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2021-01-05 18:53 +0000
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-05 11:27 -0800
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-05 14:57 -0500
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-05 19:30 +0000
              Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-04 17:58 -0800
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-05 02:35 +0000
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-04 21:44 -0500
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA?  Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-05 04:40 +0000
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2021-01-05 14:03 -0500
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-05 14:19 -0500
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-05 11:32 -0800
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-05 19:39 +0000
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-05 14:57 -0500
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2021-01-05 21:23 -0500
                Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-05 21:54 -0500
          Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-04 10:36 -0800
            Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-04 20:52 +0000
            Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-04 15:17 -0800
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            Re: Is there any disadvantage to roaming in the USA? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-04 17:52 -0800
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