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Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad

From Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad
Date 2016-02-01 23:52 -0800
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On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 07:38:39 -0600, chrisv wrote:

> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

>>>> Any reason you don't work for free, turd?
> 
> Oh, am I a "hypocrite" because I advocate software Freedom but have a
> paying job?  Really?
> 
> FOSS doesn't mean "working for free", and only liars like you claim that
> it does.
> 
>> Ever heard of volunteerism, you miserable racist bastard?
> 
> Some FOSS is created out of altruism, but mostly people (and companies)
> create FOSS because it's simply the best way for them to obtain their
> goals.

Some FOSS is produced simply because a company needs an app, and using 
existing FOSS libraries makes development faster... but also requires 
some giving back.

Some is produced because a company needs an app, develops it, and has no 
interest in monetizing the app, so why not let others use it if it might 
be of value to them?  And in return, the company may well get 
enhancements, bug fixes, whatever.

If your goal is to make money off the sales and support of software, FOSS 
is probably not your best option.  If you're *not* in the software sales 
and support biz, though, releasing any apps you develop as FOSS is a net 
win for everyone.

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Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-23 15:40 -0500
  Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-23 16:23 -0500
  Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-01-23 21:37 +0000
    Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-23 16:49 -0500
      Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-01-23 22:35 +0000
        Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-23 20:56 -0500
    Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-23 20:25 -0500
      Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> - 2016-01-24 01:47 +0000
      Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-01-24 03:30 +0100
        Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-24 10:17 -0500
        Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-24 10:56 -0700
        Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-01-26 17:14 -0800
          Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-01-27 02:21 +0100
            Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-01-26 21:57 -0800
              Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-27 05:49 -0500
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-27 07:25 -0600
                Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-27 20:35 -0500
                Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-01-27 22:26 -0800
                Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-28 05:43 -0500
                Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-28 07:38 -0600
                Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-01-28 09:26 -0600
                Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-29 12:47 -0500
                Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-01-29 18:18 +0000
                Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-29 18:38 -0500
                Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-01-29 23:52 +0000
                Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-30 11:55 -0500
                Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> - 2016-02-01 23:52 -0800
                Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-28 20:27 -0500
                Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-02-09 22:02 -0500
                Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-01-28 09:16 -0600
                Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid> - 2016-01-28 10:46 -0500
                Re: Anti-Linux trolls: still spectacularly bad fuckwits William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-01-28 23:08 +0000
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-27 13:26 -0700
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Penny Tration <fedora_the_explora@asia.com> - 2016-01-28 02:13 +0000
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-01-28 09:10 -0600
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid> - 2016-01-28 10:40 -0500
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-28 09:49 -0600
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-03-22 12:13 -0700
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Penny Tration <fedora_the_explora@asia.com> - 2016-01-28 17:25 +0000
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-01-28 13:28 -0600
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-28 14:22 -0600
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad "1 eyed chicken" <chicken@gmail.com> - 2016-01-28 22:31 +0100
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-01-28 23:07 +0000
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-28 20:23 -0500
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-29 06:46 -0600
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-29 13:16 -0500
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-28 20:21 -0500
                Linux Liars On Patrol. Penny Tration <fedora_the_explora@asia.com> - 2016-01-29 20:07 +0000
                Re: Linux Liars On Patrol. JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-01-29 16:55 -0600
                Re: Linux Liars On Patrol. Penny Tration <fedora_the_explora@asia.com> - 2016-01-29 23:13 +0000
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-28 12:31 -0700
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid> - 2016-01-28 14:49 -0500
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-01-28 21:09 +0100
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-28 14:17 -0600
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-03-22 12:13 -0700
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid> - 2016-01-28 20:01 -0500
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-01-29 03:07 +0100
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-01-29 12:22 +0000
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid> - 2016-01-29 08:35 -0500
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-29 13:05 -0500
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-01-29 19:27 +0100
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-29 20:28 -0500
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 02:35 +0000
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad mike antipasto <pizzadude@mycomputerrox.org> - 2016-01-29 21:42 -0500
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-01-30 03:08 +0000
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-01-30 05:50 +0100
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-30 00:13 -0500
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-01-30 06:18 +0100
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-30 00:19 -0500
                Troll -- nasty, thick-headed know-nothings ranting about Linux Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-30 08:12 -0500
                Re: Troll -- nasty, thick-headed know-nothings ranting about Linux chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-02-01 07:52 -0600
                Advantage:  Linux chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-02-01 10:35 -0600
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-02-01 07:24 -0600
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-30 00:07 -0500
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-01-29 18:52 +0000
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-01-30 08:54 -0500
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-28 20:31 -0500
                Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-28 20:44 -0500
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-01-29 03:02 +0100
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-29 07:46 -0600
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-28 21:07 -0500
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-29 07:00 -0600
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-02-09 22:02 -0500
            Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid> - 2016-01-27 07:47 -0500
            Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-27 13:25 -0700
          Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad kubuntuking@gmail.com - 2016-01-27 08:18 -0800
            Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-01-27 13:06 -0500
      Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-01-26 16:03 +0000
        Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-26 19:52 -0500
          Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-01-27 00:56 +0000
            Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-27 20:49 -0500
          Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-27 13:28 -0700
  Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-24 10:53 -0700
  Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad kubuntuking@gmail.com - 2016-01-27 08:15 -0800
    Troll craphead: still spectacularly bad (and incompetent) Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-27 12:48 -0500
      Re: Troll craphead: still spectacularly bad (and incompetent) and proud of it! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-27 12:35 -0600
        Re: Troll craphead: still spectacularly bad (and incompetent) and proud of it! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-27 20:37 -0500
      Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-27 20:46 -0500

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