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Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad

From owl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad
Date 2016-01-29 12:22 +0000
Organization O.W.L.
Message-ID <ghncvmdji83.a03@rooftop.invalid> (permalink)
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Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 20:01:53 -0500
> Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> On 2016-01-28 3:09 PM, Melzzzzz wrote:
>> > On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 14:49:00 -0500
>> > Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid> wrote:
>> >   
>> >> On 2016-01-28 2:31 PM, GreyCloud wrote:  
>> >>>>    
>> >>> How about just lucky?    
>> >>
>> >> GNU/Linux can't be lucky; even if the software works, it is still
>> >> ugly, inconsistent and unintuitive.  
>> > 
>> > Like Windows 8-10?  
>> 
>> You can say what you want about 10, but the reality is that the
>> operating system is the best version of Windows yet. Stable, pretty
>> and familiar, you can't beat that. 8 was not that great because of a
>> few notable omissions but 8.1 corrected that and was well-appreciated
>> by anyone who did more than just scratch the surface.
>> 
>> 
> 
> Does antivirus has access to kernel memory? What about all sort of
> driver/virus blobs? Can't be stable...

A friend of mine who is in his sixties and very much a computer newbie,
had been bringing his Windows 7 laptop over about once a month for
the last year to have me fix various user screwups and do typical
Windows maintenance issues (malware removal, etc.).  Occasionally I would
suggest that we could install Linux on his machine.  Last time he was
here he just came out and said he wants to install Linux.  (He had been
getting the Windows-10-upgrade-come-on-you-know-you-want-it popups all
the time lately).

So I verified that he didn't have anything that he would absolutely
need Windows for, and I kept his machine overnight and made sure of any
hardware issues, then wiped it and installed Debian with Mate desktop.
I took it over to his house yesterday and showed him and his wife the
basics of the GUI, and they both took to it right away.

This is going to make all of our lives so much easier. :)

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Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-23 15:40 -0500
  Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-23 16:23 -0500
  Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-01-23 21:37 +0000
    Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-23 16:49 -0500
      Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-01-23 22:35 +0000
        Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-23 20:56 -0500
    Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-23 20:25 -0500
      Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> - 2016-01-24 01:47 +0000
      Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-01-24 03:30 +0100
        Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-24 10:17 -0500
        Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-24 10:56 -0700
        Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-01-26 17:14 -0800
          Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-01-27 02:21 +0100
            Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-01-26 21:57 -0800
              Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-27 05:49 -0500
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-27 07:25 -0600
                Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-27 20:35 -0500
                Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-01-27 22:26 -0800
                Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-28 05:43 -0500
                Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-28 07:38 -0600
                Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-01-28 09:26 -0600
                Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-29 12:47 -0500
                Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-01-29 18:18 +0000
                Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-29 18:38 -0500
                Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-01-29 23:52 +0000
                Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-30 11:55 -0500
                Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> - 2016-02-01 23:52 -0800
                Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-28 20:27 -0500
                Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-02-09 22:02 -0500
                Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-01-28 09:16 -0600
                Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid> - 2016-01-28 10:46 -0500
                Re: Anti-Linux trolls: still spectacularly bad fuckwits William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-01-28 23:08 +0000
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-27 13:26 -0700
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Penny Tration <fedora_the_explora@asia.com> - 2016-01-28 02:13 +0000
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-01-28 09:10 -0600
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid> - 2016-01-28 10:40 -0500
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-28 09:49 -0600
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-03-22 12:13 -0700
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Penny Tration <fedora_the_explora@asia.com> - 2016-01-28 17:25 +0000
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-01-28 13:28 -0600
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-28 14:22 -0600
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad "1 eyed chicken" <chicken@gmail.com> - 2016-01-28 22:31 +0100
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-01-28 23:07 +0000
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-28 20:23 -0500
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-29 06:46 -0600
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-29 13:16 -0500
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-28 20:21 -0500
                Linux Liars On Patrol. Penny Tration <fedora_the_explora@asia.com> - 2016-01-29 20:07 +0000
                Re: Linux Liars On Patrol. JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-01-29 16:55 -0600
                Re: Linux Liars On Patrol. Penny Tration <fedora_the_explora@asia.com> - 2016-01-29 23:13 +0000
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-28 12:31 -0700
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid> - 2016-01-28 14:49 -0500
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-01-28 21:09 +0100
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-28 14:17 -0600
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-03-22 12:13 -0700
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid> - 2016-01-28 20:01 -0500
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-01-29 03:07 +0100
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-01-29 12:22 +0000
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid> - 2016-01-29 08:35 -0500
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-29 13:05 -0500
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-01-29 19:27 +0100
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-29 20:28 -0500
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 02:35 +0000
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad mike antipasto <pizzadude@mycomputerrox.org> - 2016-01-29 21:42 -0500
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-01-30 03:08 +0000
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-01-30 05:50 +0100
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-30 00:13 -0500
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-01-30 06:18 +0100
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-30 00:19 -0500
                Troll -- nasty, thick-headed know-nothings ranting about Linux Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-30 08:12 -0500
                Re: Troll -- nasty, thick-headed know-nothings ranting about Linux chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-02-01 07:52 -0600
                Advantage:  Linux chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-02-01 10:35 -0600
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-02-01 07:24 -0600
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-30 00:07 -0500
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-01-29 18:52 +0000
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-01-30 08:54 -0500
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-28 20:31 -0500
                Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-28 20:44 -0500
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-01-29 03:02 +0100
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-29 07:46 -0600
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-28 21:07 -0500
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-29 07:00 -0600
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-02-09 22:02 -0500
            Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid> - 2016-01-27 07:47 -0500
            Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-27 13:25 -0700
          Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad kubuntuking@gmail.com - 2016-01-27 08:18 -0800
            Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-01-27 13:06 -0500
      Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-01-26 16:03 +0000
        Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-26 19:52 -0500
          Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-01-27 00:56 +0000
            Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-27 20:49 -0500
          Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-27 13:28 -0700
  Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-24 10:53 -0700
  Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad kubuntuking@gmail.com - 2016-01-27 08:15 -0800
    Troll craphead: still spectacularly bad (and incompetent) Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-27 12:48 -0500
      Re: Troll craphead: still spectacularly bad (and incompetent) and proud of it! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-27 12:35 -0600
        Re: Troll craphead: still spectacularly bad (and incompetent) and proud of it! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-27 20:37 -0500
      Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-27 20:46 -0500

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