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Re: Posts don't show on list

From The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Posts don't show on list
Date 2016-04-23 00:40 +0200
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On 2016-04-22 at 15:20, Brian wrote:

> On Fri 22 Apr 2016 at 18:29:11 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> 
>> On Friday 22 April 2016 18:04:36 The Wanderer wrote:
>>> I'm talking about what it uses for detecting duplicates so it can
>>> discard them
>> 
>> That is worth my while to investigate.  I am a bit pushed at the
>> moment, but will report back.
> 
> It's a waste of time. Even if you conclusively demonstrated the
> offending header was Message-Id: (and it almost certainly is a major
> player) what would you do? Better is to avoid providers who think it
> fine to mess with your mail. People wouldn't accept Royal Mail or the
> US Postal Service doing it.
> 
> As for duplicates: are the mails sent to the list and the one sent
> back duplicates? That is, identical in every regard?

No; at minimum, the mails which are sent back have the List-ID header
added, identifying the mailing list through which the message has been
processed. (In my experience, usually there are other variances as
well.)

Google appears to treat them as if they were, however. That being
precisely the problem.

-- 
   The Wanderer

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man.         -- George Bernard Shaw

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Posts don't show on list Gary Roach <gary719_list1@verizon.net> - 2016-04-22 02:40 +0200
  Re: Posts don't show on list Harris Paltrowitz <harris1nyc@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 03:10 +0200
    Re: Posts don't show on list Gary Roach <gary719_list1@verizon.net> - 2016-04-22 04:20 +0200
      Re: Posts don't show on list Michael Milliman <michael.e.milliman@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 06:50 +0200
        Re: Posts don't show on list Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2016-04-22 08:00 +0200
        Re: Posts don't show on list Mimiko <vbvbrj@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 08:00 +0200
          Re: Posts don't show on list Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2016-04-22 08:50 +0200
            Re: Posts don't show on list Mimiko <vbvbrj@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 15:10 +0200
              Re: Posts don't show on list Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 18:50 +0200
              Re: Posts don't show on list Gary Roach <gary719_list1@verizon.net> - 2016-04-23 00:30 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-04-23 01:20 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list Gary Roach <garyroach@verizon.net> - 2016-04-30 00:40 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list Stephen Allen <marathon.durandal@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 00:50 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list Gary Roach <gary719_list1@verizon.net> - 2016-04-30 02:20 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-04-30 12:20 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-04-30 16:20 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 16:40 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-04-30 21:10 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list Gary Roach <gary719_list1@verizon.net> - 2016-04-30 21:10 +0200
                Re: pastebinning (was: Posts don't show on list) Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2016-04-30 21:20 +0200
                Re: pastebinning (was: Posts don't show on list) cbannister@slingshot.co.nz - 2016-05-10 20:20 +0200
                Re: pastebinning (was: Posts don't show on list) Michael Fothergill <michael.fothergill@googlemail.com> - 2016-05-10 20:50 +0200
                Re: pastebinning (was: Posts don't show on list) Eike Lantzsch <zp6cge@gmx.net> - 2016-05-10 22:10 +0200
                Re: pastebinning (was: Posts don't show on list) Michael Fothergill <michael.fothergill@googlemail.com> - 2016-05-10 22:20 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-04-30 21:20 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list Gary Roach <gary719_list1@verizon.net> - 2016-04-30 22:10 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-05-01 00:30 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2016-05-01 00:40 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list Gary Roach <gary719_list1@verizon.net> - 2016-05-01 03:10 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-05-01 13:30 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list Gary Roach <gary719_list1@verizon.net> - 2016-05-01 18:50 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-05-01 19:40 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list Gary Roach <gary719_list1@verizon.net> - 2016-05-02 04:00 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 10:20 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-05-02 13:00 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 13:10 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list Santiago Vila <sanvila@unex.es> - 2016-04-30 01:10 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-04-30 01:50 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 08:40 +0200
              Re: Posts don't show on list Andrew McGlashan <andrew.mcglashan@affinityvision.com.au> - 2016-04-23 06:00 +0200
          Re: Posts don't show on list Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2016-04-22 09:00 +0200
            Re: Posts don't show on list <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2016-04-22 09:40 +0200
            Re: Posts don't show on list Harris Paltrowitz <harrisupstate@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-22 13:30 +0200
              Re: Posts don't show on list <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2016-04-22 13:50 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2016-04-22 14:20 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2016-04-22 14:30 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2016-04-22 15:00 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2016-04-22 15:30 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2016-04-22 16:00 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2016-04-22 16:10 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 19:10 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list Marc Shapiro <marcnshap@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 08:30 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list Marc Shapiro <marcnshap@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 08:30 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list Stephen Allen <marathon.durandal@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 01:30 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list Gary Roach <gary719_list1@verizon.net> - 2016-04-28 03:10 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list Stephen Allen <marathon.durandal@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 18:40 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list Gary Roach <gary719_list1@verizon.net> - 2016-04-28 21:40 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list Marc Shapiro <marcnshap@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 03:40 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list Stephen Allen <marathon.durandal@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 00:40 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-04-30 02:00 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 08:40 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-04-30 14:20 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 15:30 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-04-30 18:30 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 23:00 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2016-05-01 00:10 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list Mike McGinn <mikemcginn@mcginnweb.net> - 2016-05-01 01:10 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-05-01 01:20 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2016-05-01 01:30 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list Stephen Allen <marathon.durandal@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 22:30 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 18:50 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2016-04-22 19:10 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 19:30 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-04-22 21:30 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2016-04-23 00:40 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-23 01:20 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2016-04-22 14:30 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list cbannister@slingshot.co.nz - 2016-04-23 13:40 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list Harris Paltrowitz <harrisupstate@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-22 14:30 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2016-04-22 14:40 +0200
          Re: Posts don't show on list Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-04-22 11:10 +0200
        Re: Posts don't show on list Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-04-22 10:50 +0200
          Re: Posts don't show on list Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-04-22 11:20 +0200
            Re: Posts don't show on list Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-04-22 13:30 +0200
            Re: Posts don't show on list David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-04-22 18:30 +0200
              Re: Posts don't show on list John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2016-04-22 19:50 +0200
                Re: Posts don't show on list Andrew McGlashan <andrew.mcglashan@affinityvision.com.au> - 2016-04-23 06:10 +0200
            Re: Posts don't show on list cbannister@slingshot.co.nz - 2016-04-23 13:50 +0200
              Re: Posts don't show on list Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-04-23 14:10 +0200
      Re: Posts don't show on list Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-04-22 21:10 +0200
  Re: Posts don't show on list Gary Roach <gary719_list1@verizon.net> - 2016-04-22 21:30 +0200
    Re: Posts don't show on list Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2016-04-22 21:40 +0200
      Re: Posts don't show on list cbannister@slingshot.co.nz - 2016-04-23 14:10 +0200
    Re: Posts don't show on list Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-04-22 21:40 +0200
    Re: Posts don't show on list David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-04-22 22:30 +0200
    Re: Posts don't show on list Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2016-04-23 01:40 +0200
    Re: Posts don't show on list cbannister@slingshot.co.nz - 2016-04-23 14:00 +0200

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