Re: Modified Rapture<g>, and a new question

From	David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: Modified Rapture<g>, and a new question
Date	2016-04-04 06:00 +0200
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On Mon 04 Apr 2016 at 02:22:10 (+0000), Mark Fletcher wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Apr 2016 at 04:20, David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> wrote:
> > On Sun 03 Apr 2016 at 08:56:23 (+0000), Mark Fletcher wrote:
> > > I just don't understand why anyone would pay money for Jessie in the first
> > > place.
> >
> > Convenience, bandwidth, trust,...
> >
> > > It's supposed to be free software...
> >
> > It *is* free software. That doesn't mean that vendors have to download
> > it, burn it, verify it, market it, distribute it, support it and pay
> > for all the overheads for nothing. There's no business model in that.

> Precisely. That was my question. Why would anyone do any of that?

Eh? "Anyone" in your first question referred to purchasers who pay
money for something that is free. OK, you obviously want the quick
answer. Read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gratis_versus_libre and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_terms_for_free_software
and realise there's no contradiction in paying for free software.

"Anyone" in your second question refers to the vendors who do any or
all of that, and charge you for it.

> Just
> download it from Debian.org already. Separate vendors aren't adding any
> value. Why should they get paid for doing nothing useful?

That's your opinion. Fortunately for the purchasers, the vendors do
something that the purchasers consider useful, and they get paid for
doing so.

Bandwidth doesn't come free, so you pay for your download instead of
buying the media. You either pay your ISP directly, or indirectly
through council/property taxes (in a library), the bill (in a
restaurant), or your employer's overheads (at work).

Cheers,
David.

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    OT: GRUB kernel options (Was: Blank screen on tty (console)) Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-04-02 05:40 +0200
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    Modified Rapture<g>, and a new question Alan McConnell <alan@his.com> - 2016-04-02 19:50 +0200
      Re: Modified Rapture<g>, and a new question Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-04-02 21:20 +0200
        Re: Modified Rapture<g>, and a new question Alan McConnell <alan@his.com> - 2016-04-02 22:50 +0200
          Re: Modified Rapture<g>, and a new question Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-04-03 00:50 +0200
          Re: Modified Rapture<g>, and a new question Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-04-04 21:20 +0200
            Re: Modified Rapture<g>, and a new question Alan McConnell <alan@his.com> - 2016-04-04 23:00 +0200
              Re: Modified Rapture<g>, and a new question Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-05 02:30 +0200
              Re: Modified Rapture<g>, and a new question Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-04-05 12:00 +0200
                Re: Modified Rapture<g>, and a new question Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2016-04-05 13:30 +0200
                Re: Modified Rapture<g>, and a new question Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-04-06 15:50 +0200
                Re: Modified Rapture<g>, and a new question Alan McConnell <alan@his.com> - 2016-04-05 16:00 +0200
      Re: Modified Rapture<g>, and a new question Floris <jkfloris@dds.nl> - 2016-04-03 10:20 +0200
        Re: Modified Rapture<g>, and a new question Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2016-04-03 11:00 +0200
          Re: Modified Rapture<g>, and a new question Floris <jkfloris@dds.nl> - 2016-04-03 11:10 +0200
            Re: Modified Rapture<g>, and a new question Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-04-03 12:30 +0200
          Re: Modified Rapture<g>, and a new question David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-04-03 21:30 +0200
            Re: Modified Rapture<g>, and a new question Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 04:30 +0200
              Re: Modified Rapture<g>, and a new question David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-04-04 06:00 +0200
              Re: Modified Rapture<g>, and a new question John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2016-04-04 06:00 +0200
              Re: Modified Rapture<g>, and a new question Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2016-04-04 07:40 +0200
              Re: Modified Rapture<g>, and a new question <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2016-04-04 09:20 +0200
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