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Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance?

From Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.folklore.computers
Subject Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance?
Date 2020-09-08 21:10 +0000
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On 2020-09-06, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> writes:
>> 
>> As for consistency, I notice all the mainstream desktop managers
>> change with every release.  My WM, Fvwm only changes when I change
>> my configuration file.  Fvwm gets new features, it just doesn't force
>> change with every release.  My desktop is pretty much the same as it
>> was 20 years ago.  That's consistent.
>
> People say the plethora of window managers is a plus, I tend to doubt it.
> As far as frequent changes, I thought that Ubuntu moving by default from
> Gnome2 to Gnome3 was a big mistake. I installed a new release and it was
> hate at first sight. I hunted around and found Mate, which is still Gnome2,
> although I guess there are several, like Mint, that are as well. Mate seems
> to stay the dame from release to release.

What made me dump Ubuntu was their move to Unity.  Plus I found that
Gnome was a bit too touchy-feely and I preferred something lean and mean.
I went with Blackbox for a while, but that was a bit _too_ lean, and
have since settled on xfce.

> Developers seem to like to change things, maybe not “just because they
> can”, but maybe just because someone thinks they have a better idea without
> considering how users actually work.

And that's why I believe that having a choice of window managers is
a Good Thing.  When some developer decides to pull the rug out from
under you, you can tell him to get stuffed.

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When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-09-05 10:12 +0000
  Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-09-05 06:55 -0400
    Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-09-05 11:19 +0000
      Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-09-05 12:31 +0000
        Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-09-05 09:26 -0400
          Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-09-05 12:04 -0400
            Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-09-05 12:26 -0400
              Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-09-05 12:57 -0400
                Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-09-05 14:03 -0400
                Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-09-05 15:15 -0400
                Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-09-05 16:34 -0400
                Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-09-05 17:02 -0400
                Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-09-05 17:27 -0400
                Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-09-05 20:02 -0400
                Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-09-05 21:50 -0400
              Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2020-09-05 12:03 -0500
                Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-09-05 14:07 -0400
            Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-05 17:53 -0700
              Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-09-05 20:57 -0400
          Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-05 17:38 -0700
            Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-09-05 21:58 -0400
            Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-09-06 07:10 +0100
            Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-09-06 20:05 +0000
            Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-09-08 21:10 +0000
        Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-09-05 13:30 +0000
        Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-09-05 19:17 +0000
          Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-09-05 16:20 -0400
            Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-11-19 07:15 +0000
          Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-09-05 16:41 -0400
      Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-09-05 18:59 +0000
        Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-09-05 20:01 +0000
          Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-09-05 22:06 +0100
            Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-09-06 08:21 +0000
              Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-09-06 10:26 +0100
          Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-11-14 08:58 +0000
      Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-05 17:38 -0700
        Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-09-06 08:20 +0000
      Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-09-08 21:10 +0000
        Re: X et al, When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-09-08 22:29 +0000
        Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-09-09 19:20 +0000
    Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-09-05 09:44 -0400
    Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-09-05 16:59 +0100
  Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Jason Evans <jsevans@mailfence.com> - 2020-09-05 14:20 +0000
    Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-09-05 16:27 +0000
      Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-09-05 12:58 -0400
        Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-09-05 13:01 -0400
      Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-09-05 19:38 +0000
        Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-09-05 16:24 -0400
  Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Rick Umali <rickumali@gmail.com> - 2020-09-05 19:40 +0000
  Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2020-09-08 11:22 -0700
    Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-09-09 16:02 +0000
      Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-09-09 16:56 +0000
  Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? massimo79m@gmail.com - 2020-09-12 01:39 -0700
    Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2020-09-17 13:28 -0700

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