Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start

From	Terence <terence.john@gmail.com>
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Subject	Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start
Date	2016-03-28 17:10 +0200
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Hi,

Again, I am not sure where you get your facts- what has the 6th June 1944
as a date have to do with it? And why not earlier?

If you are talking about the war reparations demanded by the victorious
allies in WW1 (by any account largely caused by Wilhelm) they were never
paid, and the engineered inflation in Germany in the 'twenties destroyed
any value they may have had. (BTW that criminals should not benefit from
their crimes, even if convicted and serving a gaol sentence in enshrined in
UK law- their ill-gotten gains can be seized)

The US support for rebuilding Germany after both World Wars is often
ignored- especially the financial support.

I think you might check how much of Russia's success in the war was down to
the selfless support of the UK and the USA- from boots, rations,
rolling-stock and locomotives, aircraft, vehicles,- the list goes on and
on. The deaths of British sailors and airmen carrying supplies to Murmansk
underscore our commitment to the USSR during this war.

Even in May 1945 Stalin was aware on the UK/US Manhatten project, and also
that the Western Allies were ready should he decide to advance further than
the agreements (Casablanca, Tehran and Yalta). The war in the East was not
over, and Russia had gained several advantages in agreeing to join the war
against Japan. He knew he could not compete with the Western Allies
militarily until his spies and our traitors gave him what he wanted- and
then it was too late.

As for "Germany is still officially occupied by the USA" I rather think
that they would disagree! The military occupation of Germany ended in
1945...

Remember, internet search engines are your friend!

Best wishes,

On 28 March 2016 at 12:53, deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> wrote:

> Terence wrote:
>
> > I don't know where the idea that the USA entered the war to stop the USSR
> > invading Western Europe came from. In December 1941 Germany was deep
> > inside Russia, and it took the combined Allied might of Great Britain,
> the
> > USA and the USSR nearly four years to defeat them.
>
> This is also what I thought before consolidating my knowledge on the
> matter.
> There is a simple fact. 6 June 1944 - D-Day - not earlier.
> So IMO the west was always hypocritical as it is today. First they sucked
> all the blood money from Europe and when found out that the Soviets would
> conquer Europe, they marched in "defeating Hitlers Germany". And Germany is
> still officially occupied by the USA. Another fact few of us are aware of.
> I won't be surprised if USA claims victory over Daesh in Syria soon.
> Really strange world, we live in.
>
> regards
>
>

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      Grossly OT - WW2 start Tony van der Hoff <tony@vanderhoff.org> - 2016-03-26 13:30 +0100
        Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-03-26 14:40 +0100
          Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start Haines Brown <haines@histomat.net> - 2016-03-26 15:00 +0100
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            Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start Haines Brown <haines@histomat.net> - 2016-03-26 15:20 +0100
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              Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start Terence <terence.john@gmail.com> - 2016-03-28 17:10 +0200
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                Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start Terence <terence.john@gmail.com> - 2016-03-30 16:10 +0200
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          Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-04-03 11:30 +0200
            Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-04-03 20:50 +0200
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                Re: Grossly OT SO STOP IT ALREADY! Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-04-03 21:20 +0200
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