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Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls

From	sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
Newsgroups	misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android, alt.cellular
Subject	Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls
Date	2020-08-07 12:56 -0700
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID	<rgkbm5$a48$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)
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On 8/7/2020 11:31 AM, JF Mezei wrote:
> On 2020-08-07 11:40, nospam wrote:
> 
>> it was a disaster for nextel. sprint killed it.
> 
> Actually the problem is that Sprint bought it and didn't shut it down
> fast. (in part because CDMA didn't offer the "push to talk"
> functionality of iDEN. )

The only virtue of Nextel was the PTT feature. Shutting it down 
immediately, without an adequate replacement, would have been bad.

The CDMA carriers tried to do PTT. The problem was that the latency was 
too long. See 
<https://www.rcrwireless.com/20030908/carriers/when-seconds-count>. 
Sprint had dreams of retaining all the Nextel customers even after they 
shut down iDEN service. That didn't happen. There was at least one 
combination CDMA/iDEN phone, the Motorola Buzz ic502, but it was just 
too late. Then Sprint screwed up again with WiMax.

With LTE you can now have PTT functionality separate from the carriers' 
offerings. Zello <https://zello.com/> has a good product for this. It's 
not inexpensive but it serves the needs of some businesses.

Where my wife works, they were using Nextel for a while. Someone thought 
that the PTT would be a great feature but the reality was that due to 
HIPAA (Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act) it was more 
of an annoyance, leading to it being mocked as "PTA" (Push To Annoy) 
<https://www.tampabay.com/archive/2004/01/05/walkie-talkie-phones-efficient-but-annoying/>. 
You need a secure communication platform for health care applications.

The other problem with Nextel was that it was very much an urban product 
and if you needed coverage in rural areas you couldn't use it because 
there was no iDEN coverage. For a company where you're sending employees 
to the far reaches of the county it was not a good service, and 
employees had to have their own personal phones on AT&T or Verizon to 
supplement the Nextel service. This was an annoyance to employees 
because back then the carriers were not providing unlimited voice 
minutes, except for off-peak use, so they had to pay for those 
work-related calls themselves.

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T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-08-01 04:44 +0000
  Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2020-08-01 10:50 +0000
    Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-08-01 18:24 +0000
      Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2020-08-01 19:29 +0000
        Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-08-02 02:08 +0000
          Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-02 13:19 +0200
            Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-08-02 11:21 -0400
              Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-08-02 16:10 +0000
            Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2020-08-02 08:55 -0700
              Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-02 22:08 +0200
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2020-08-02 20:29 +0000
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-08-02 20:57 +0000
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-03 00:04 +0200
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-08-02 22:43 +0000
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-03 22:08 +0200
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-08-03 22:03 +0000
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-03 00:03 +0200
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-08-02 20:43 +0000
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-03 00:05 +0200
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-08-02 22:43 +0000
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-08-02 13:54 -0700
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> - 2020-08-02 16:07 -0500
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2020-08-02 16:16 -0700
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-08-02 16:31 -0700
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-02 19:38 -0400
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2020-08-02 16:47 -0700
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-08-03 08:37 -0700
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-03 12:36 -0400
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-08-03 10:24 -0700
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-03 13:41 -0400
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-08-03 18:21 +0000
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-08-03 17:19 -0700
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-03 21:48 -0400
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-08-03 19:27 -0700
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-04 10:05 -0400
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-08-04 08:15 -0700
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-04 12:27 -0400
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-08-04 12:13 -0700
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-08-03 17:13 -0400
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-08-04 03:19 +0000
                Keeping a phone active at no monthly cost [was: Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls] sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-08-04 10:10 -0700
                Re: Keeping a phone active at no monthly cost [was: Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls] Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2020-08-04 14:42 -0700
                Re: Keeping a phone active at no monthly cost [was: Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls] nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-04 18:00 -0400
                Re: Keeping a phone active at no monthly cost [was: Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls] sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-08-04 15:02 -0700
                Re: Keeping a phone active at no monthly cost Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-08-05 00:41 +0000
                Re: Keeping a phone active at no monthly cost [was: Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls] Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2020-08-05 08:18 -0700
                Re: Keeping a phone active at no monthly cost [was: Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls] sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-08-06 07:15 -0700
                Re: Keeping a phone active at no monthly cost [was: Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls] nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-06 10:27 -0400
                Re: Keeping a phone active at no monthly cost [was: Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls] The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2020-08-05 11:34 -0700
                Re: Keeping a phone active at no monthly cost [was: Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls] sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-08-05 14:45 -0700
                Re: Keeping a phone active at no monthly cost [was: Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls] nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-05 18:18 -0400
                Re: Keeping a phone active at no monthly cost [was: Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls] The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2020-08-05 20:28 -0700
                Re: Keeping a phone active at no monthly cost [was: Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls] sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-08-06 07:13 -0700
                Re: Keeping a phone active at no monthly cost [was: Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls] nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-06 10:27 -0400
                Re: Keeping a phone active at no monthly cost [was: Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls] sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-08-06 09:48 -0700
                Re: Keeping a phone active at no monthly cost [was: Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls] Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-08-06 06:24 +0000
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> - 2020-08-02 19:16 -0500
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2020-08-02 17:40 -0700
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-08-02 21:56 +0000
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2020-08-02 15:56 -0700
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-03 18:40 +0200
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-08-03 18:02 +0000
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-03 22:05 +0200
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-08-03 13:12 -0700
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-08-03 21:12 +0000
                Re: Ignoring posts "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-03 23:15 +0200
                Re: Ignoring posts Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-08-03 21:53 +0000
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-08-03 17:21 -0400
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-08-04 09:51 -0700
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-04 13:07 -0400
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2020-08-04 17:56 +0000
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-04 14:09 -0400
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-08-04 23:49 -0400
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-05 00:47 -0400
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-08-05 02:03 -0400
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-05 02:25 -0400
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-08-05 22:02 -0400
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-05 22:08 -0400
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-08-05 21:07 -0700
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-06 00:17 -0400
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-08-05 04:50 -0700
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-05 08:13 -0400
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-08-05 14:06 +0000
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-08-05 22:11 -0400
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-08-06 19:08 -0700
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-08-07 08:31 -0700
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-07 11:40 -0400
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-08-07 14:31 -0400
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-07 14:39 -0400
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-08-07 12:56 -0700
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-07 15:59 -0400
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-08-07 16:36 -0400
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-07 19:47 -0400
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-08-07 17:32 -0700
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> - 2020-08-07 19:29 -0500
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-07 20:34 -0400
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-08-07 23:52 +0000
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-07 19:56 -0400
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> - 2020-08-07 19:14 -0500
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-07 20:21 -0400
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> - 2020-08-07 19:20 -0500
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-08-08 22:29 +0000
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-08-05 05:30 -0700
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-05 08:48 -0400
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-08-05 18:18 -0700
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-05 22:08 -0400
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-08-04 11:35 -0700
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-04 14:41 -0400
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-08-04 12:47 -0700
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-04 16:14 -0400
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-08-03 21:18 +0000
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-08-03 12:47 -0700
        Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-08-03 11:04 -0700
          Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-03 14:23 -0400
            Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-08-03 18:52 +0000
              Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-03 14:54 -0400
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-08-03 21:44 +0000
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-03 18:54 -0400
              Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2020-08-03 20:18 +0000
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-08-03 21:43 +0000
  Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-13 04:55 +0000

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