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Re: [PATCH 1/1] KVM: don't allow irq_fpu_usable when the VCPU's XCR0 is loaded

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On 15/03/2016 19:27, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 6:17 AM, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 11/03/2016 22:33, David Matlack wrote:
>>>> Is this better than just always keeping the host's XCR0 loaded outside
>>>> if the KVM interrupts-disabled region?
>>>
>>> Probably not. AFAICT KVM does not rely on it being loaded outside that
>>> region. xsetbv isn't insanely expensive, is it? Maybe to minimize the
>>> time spent with interrupts disabled it was put outside.
>>>
>>> I do like that your solution would be contained to KVM.
>>
>> I agree with Andy.  We do want a fix for recent kernels because of the
>> !eager_fpu case that Guangrong mentioned.
>>
>> Paolo
>>
>> ps: while Andy is planning to kill lazy FPU, I want to benchmark it with
>> KVM...  Remember that with a single pre-xsave host in your cluster, your
>> virt management might happily default your VMs to a Westmere or Nehalem
>> CPU model.  GCC might be a pretty good testbench for this (e.g. a kernel
>> compile with very high make -j), because outside of the lexer (which
>> plays SIMD games) it never uses the FPU.
> 
> Aren't pre-xsave CPUs really, really old?  A brief search suggests
> that Intel Core added it somewhere in the middle of the cycle.

I am fairly sure it was added in Sandy Bridge, together with AVX. But
what really matters for eager FPU is not xsave, it's xsaveopt, and I
think AMD has never even produced a microprocessor that supports it.

> For pre-xsave, it could indeed hurt performance a tiny bit under
> workloads that use the FPU and then stop completely because the
> xsaveopt and init optimizations aren't available.  But even that is
> probably a very small effect, especially because pre-xsave CPUs have
> smaller FPU state sizes.

It's still a few cache lines.  Benchmarks will tell.

Paolo

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[PATCH 0/1] KVM: x86: using the fpu in interrupt context with a guest's xcr0 David Matlack <dmatlack@google.com> - 2016-03-11 21:50 +0100
  [PATCH 1/1] KVM: don't allow irq_fpu_usable when the VCPU's XCR0 is loaded David Matlack <dmatlack@google.com> - 2016-03-11 21:50 +0100
    Re: [PATCH 1/1] KVM: don't allow irq_fpu_usable when the VCPU's XCR0  is loaded Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2016-03-11 22:20 +0100
      Re: [PATCH 1/1] KVM: don't allow irq_fpu_usable when the VCPU's XCR0  is loaded David Matlack <dmatlack@google.com> - 2016-03-11 22:40 +0100
        Re: [PATCH 1/1] KVM: don't allow irq_fpu_usable when the VCPU's XCR0  is loaded Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> - 2016-03-14 14:20 +0100
          Re: [PATCH 1/1] KVM: don't allow irq_fpu_usable when the VCPU's XCR0  is loaded Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2016-03-15 19:30 +0100
            Re: [PATCH 1/1] KVM: don't allow irq_fpu_usable when the VCPU's XCR0  is loaded Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> - 2016-03-15 20:40 +0100
              Re: [PATCH 1/1] KVM: don't allow irq_fpu_usable when the VCPU's XCR0  is loaded Xiao Guangrong <guangrong.xiao@linux.intel.com> - 2016-03-16 05:00 +0100
                Re: [PATCH 1/1] KVM: don't allow irq_fpu_usable when the VCPU's XCR0  is loaded Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> - 2016-03-16 13:10 +0100
  Re: [PATCH 0/1] KVM: x86: using the fpu in interrupt context with a  guest's xcr0 Xiao Guangrong <guangrong.xiao@linux.intel.com> - 2016-03-14 08:50 +0100
    Re: [PATCH 0/1] KVM: x86: using the fpu in interrupt context with a  guest's xcr0 David Matlack <dmatlack@google.com> - 2016-03-15 20:10 +0100
      Re: [PATCH 0/1] KVM: x86: using the fpu in interrupt context with a  guest's xcr0 Xiao Guangrong <guangrong.xiao@linux.intel.com> - 2016-03-16 04:50 +0100
        Re: [PATCH 0/1] KVM: x86: using the fpu in interrupt context with a  guest's xcr0 Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2016-03-16 04:50 +0100
          Re: [PATCH 0/1] KVM: x86: using the fpu in interrupt context with a  guest's xcr0 David Matlack <dmatlack@google.com> - 2016-03-16 18:20 +0100
        Re: [PATCH 0/1] KVM: x86: using the fpu in interrupt context with a  guest's xcr0 David Matlack <dmatlack@google.com> - 2016-03-16 18:10 +0100

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