Re: [PATCH 1/1] KVM: don't allow irq_fpu_usable when the VCPU's XCR0 is loaded

From	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Newsgroups	linux.kernel
Subject	Re: [PATCH 1/1] KVM: don't allow irq_fpu_usable when the VCPU's XCR0 is loaded
Date	2016-03-15 19:30 +0100
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On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 6:17 AM, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 11/03/2016 22:33, David Matlack wrote:
>> > Is this better than just always keeping the host's XCR0 loaded outside
>> > if the KVM interrupts-disabled region?
>>
>> Probably not. AFAICT KVM does not rely on it being loaded outside that
>> region. xsetbv isn't insanely expensive, is it? Maybe to minimize the
>> time spent with interrupts disabled it was put outside.
>>
>> I do like that your solution would be contained to KVM.
>
> I agree with Andy.  We do want a fix for recent kernels because of the
> !eager_fpu case that Guangrong mentioned.
>
> Paolo
>
> ps: while Andy is planning to kill lazy FPU, I want to benchmark it with
> KVM...  Remember that with a single pre-xsave host in your cluster, your
> virt management might happily default your VMs to a Westmere or Nehalem
> CPU model.  GCC might be a pretty good testbench for this (e.g. a kernel
> compile with very high make -j), because outside of the lexer (which
> plays SIMD games) it never uses the FPU.

Aren't pre-xsave CPUs really, really old?  A brief search suggests
that Intel Core added it somewhere in the middle of the cycle.

For pre-xsave, it could indeed hurt performance a tiny bit under
workloads that use the FPU and then stop completely because the
xsaveopt and init optimizations aren't available.  But even that is
probably a very small effect, especially because pre-xsave CPUs have
smaller FPU state sizes.


-- 
Andy Lutomirski
AMA Capital Management, LLC

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[PATCH 0/1] KVM: x86: using the fpu in interrupt context with a guest's xcr0 David Matlack <dmatlack@google.com> - 2016-03-11 21:50 +0100
  [PATCH 1/1] KVM: don't allow irq_fpu_usable when the VCPU's XCR0 is loaded David Matlack <dmatlack@google.com> - 2016-03-11 21:50 +0100
    Re: [PATCH 1/1] KVM: don't allow irq_fpu_usable when the VCPU's XCR0  is loaded Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2016-03-11 22:20 +0100
      Re: [PATCH 1/1] KVM: don't allow irq_fpu_usable when the VCPU's XCR0  is loaded David Matlack <dmatlack@google.com> - 2016-03-11 22:40 +0100
        Re: [PATCH 1/1] KVM: don't allow irq_fpu_usable when the VCPU's XCR0  is loaded Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> - 2016-03-14 14:20 +0100
          Re: [PATCH 1/1] KVM: don't allow irq_fpu_usable when the VCPU's XCR0  is loaded Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2016-03-15 19:30 +0100
            Re: [PATCH 1/1] KVM: don't allow irq_fpu_usable when the VCPU's XCR0  is loaded Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> - 2016-03-15 20:40 +0100
              Re: [PATCH 1/1] KVM: don't allow irq_fpu_usable when the VCPU's XCR0  is loaded Xiao Guangrong <guangrong.xiao@linux.intel.com> - 2016-03-16 05:00 +0100
                Re: [PATCH 1/1] KVM: don't allow irq_fpu_usable when the VCPU's XCR0  is loaded Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> - 2016-03-16 13:10 +0100
  Re: [PATCH 0/1] KVM: x86: using the fpu in interrupt context with a  guest's xcr0 Xiao Guangrong <guangrong.xiao@linux.intel.com> - 2016-03-14 08:50 +0100
    Re: [PATCH 0/1] KVM: x86: using the fpu in interrupt context with a  guest's xcr0 David Matlack <dmatlack@google.com> - 2016-03-15 20:10 +0100
      Re: [PATCH 0/1] KVM: x86: using the fpu in interrupt context with a  guest's xcr0 Xiao Guangrong <guangrong.xiao@linux.intel.com> - 2016-03-16 04:50 +0100
        Re: [PATCH 0/1] KVM: x86: using the fpu in interrupt context with a  guest's xcr0 Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2016-03-16 04:50 +0100
          Re: [PATCH 0/1] KVM: x86: using the fpu in interrupt context with a  guest's xcr0 David Matlack <dmatlack@google.com> - 2016-03-16 18:20 +0100
        Re: [PATCH 0/1] KVM: x86: using the fpu in interrupt context with a  guest's xcr0 David Matlack <dmatlack@google.com> - 2016-03-16 18:10 +0100

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