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Re: flash? [OT]

From Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: flash? [OT]
Date 2016-03-15 03:40 +0100
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On Mon, 14 Mar 2016 19:50:15 +0000 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> wrote:

> On Tue 15 Mar 2016 at 06:00:27 +1100, Andrew McGlashan wrote:
> 
> > On 15/03/2016 5:13 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > On Monday 14 March 2016 14:06:27 Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote:
> > > 
> > >> IMHO its worth to try the web without flash.
> > >> HTML5 can do a lot nowadays.
> > >> And visiting sites without using flash helps to get rid of it.
> > 
> > The sooner, the better.... Flash needs to die ASAP.
>
> Total nonsense.

This is a very silly position. Of course *one person* declining to use
Flash isn't going to change anything- but that one person can influence
others to do so, and then others will boycott Flash, etc. How is it
that positive systemic changes are made in the real world? By the
action of the masses, and the action of the masses starts with the
action of individuals.

Nothing would ever happen if everyone adopted the logic of "oh well, I'm
alone so I can't change anything". The journey of a thousand miles
starts with a single step.

> Does it even notice you didn't even visit its site? "By God", they
> say, Brian didn't watch Happy Valley; why not?; we must do something
> about this.

They will notice when lots of people no longer use Flash, and we will
force them to react accordingly.

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flash? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-03-14 17:30 +0100
  Re: flash? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-03-14 17:30 +0100
    Re: flash? Alex Mestiashvili <mailatgoogl@gmail.com> - 2016-03-14 18:00 +0100
      Re: flash? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-03-14 19:10 +0100
    Re: flash? Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2016-03-14 18:50 +0100
      Re: flash? Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-03-14 19:00 +0100
        Re: flash? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-03-14 19:20 +0100
          Re: flash? "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@galactic.demon.co.uk> - 2016-03-14 22:40 +0100
            Re: flash? Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-03-15 00:20 +0100
              Re: flash? "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@galactic.demon.co.uk> - 2016-03-15 00:50 +0100
          Re: flash? Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-03-15 00:20 +0100
            Re: flash? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-03-15 02:50 +0100
      Re: flash? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-03-14 19:10 +0100
    Re: flash? Charlie Kravetz <cjk@teamcharliesangels.com> - 2016-03-14 19:50 +0100
  Re: flash? [OT] Jörg-Volker Peetz <jvpeetz@web.de> - 2016-03-14 19:10 +0100
    Re: flash? [OT] Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-03-14 19:20 +0100
      Re: flash? [OT] Andrew McGlashan <andrew.mcglashan@affinityvision.com.au> - 2016-03-14 20:10 +0100
        Re: flash? [OT] Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-03-14 21:00 +0100
          Re: flash? [OT] Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-03-15 03:40 +0100
            Re: flash? [OT] David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-03-15 03:50 +0100
              Re: flash? [OT] Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-03-15 04:50 +0100
              Re: flash? [OT] Andrew McGlashan <andrew.mcglashan@affinityvision.com.au> - 2016-03-15 05:00 +0100
                Re: flash? [OT] Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-03-15 10:00 +0100
                "A Modest Proposal" - was [Re: flash? [OT]] Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-03-15 11:40 +0100
                Re: "A Modest Proposal" - was [Re: flash? [OT]] deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-03-15 15:20 +0100
                Re: "A Modest Proposal" - was [Re: flash? [OT]] Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-03-15 16:00 +0100
                Re: "A Modest Proposal" - was [Re: flash? [OT]] Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-03-15 17:50 +0100
                Re: "A Modest Proposal" - was [Re: flash? [OT]] Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-03-16 01:50 +0100
                Re: "A Modest Proposal" - was [Re: flash? [OT]] Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-03-16 02:50 +0100
                Re: flash? [OT] Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-03-15 21:00 +0100
                Re: flash? [OT] Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-03-16 02:50 +0100
                Re: flash? [OT] Liam O'Toole <liam.p.otoole@gmail.com> - 2016-03-16 14:00 +0100
                Re: flash? [OT] Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-03-16 15:00 +0100
                Re: flash? [OT] Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-03-16 16:20 +0100
                Re: flash? [OT] Liam O'Toole <liam.p.otoole@gmail.com> - 2016-03-16 16:50 +0100
                Re: flash? [OT] Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-03-16 17:30 +0100
                Re: flash? [OT] Liam O'Toole <liam.p.otoole@gmail.com> - 2016-03-16 23:40 +0100
                Re: flash? [OT] Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-03-15 21:20 +0100
              Re: flash? [OT] Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2016-03-15 22:10 +0100
                Re: flash? [OT] Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-03-17 17:10 +0100
                Re: flash? [OT] Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 17:40 +0100
                Re: flash? [OT] Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-03-17 17:50 +0100
                Re: flash? [OT] Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2016-03-17 19:10 +0100
      Re: flash? [OT] Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-03-15 03:40 +0100
    Re: flash? [OT] Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2016-03-14 21:20 +0100
      Re: flash? [OT] Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-03-14 21:30 +0100
        Re: flash? [OT] Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2016-03-15 22:00 +0100
          Re: flash? [OT] Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-03-16 00:00 +0100
            Re: flash? [OT] Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2016-03-16 05:00 +0100
    Re: flash? [OT] Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-03-15 03:40 +0100
      Re: flash? [OT] deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-03-15 08:40 +0100
        Re: flash? [OT] Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-03-17 17:10 +0100

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