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Re: [RFC qemu 0/4] A PV solution for live migration optimization

From Amit Shah <amit.shah@redhat.com>
Newsgroups linux.kernel
Subject Re: [RFC qemu 0/4] A PV solution for live migration optimization
Date 2016-03-08 12:20 +0100
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On (Thu) 03 Mar 2016 [18:44:24], Liang Li wrote:
> The current QEMU live migration implementation mark the all the
> guest's RAM pages as dirtied in the ram bulk stage, all these pages
> will be processed and that takes quit a lot of CPU cycles.
> 
> From guest's point of view, it doesn't care about the content in free
> pages. We can make use of this fact and skip processing the free
> pages in the ram bulk stage, it can save a lot CPU cycles and reduce
> the network traffic significantly while speed up the live migration
> process obviously.
> 
> This patch set is the QEMU side implementation.
> 
> The virtio-balloon is extended so that QEMU can get the free pages
> information from the guest through virtio.
> 
> After getting the free pages information (a bitmap), QEMU can use it
> to filter out the guest's free pages in the ram bulk stage. This make
> the live migration process much more efficient.
> 
> This RFC version doesn't take the post-copy and RDMA into
> consideration, maybe both of them can benefit from this PV solution
> by with some extra modifications.

I like the idea, just have to prove (review) and test it a lot to
ensure we don't end up skipping pages that matter.

However, there are a couple of points:

In my opinion, the information that's exchanged between the guest and
the host should be exchanged over a virtio-serial channel rather than
virtio-balloon.  First, there's nothing related to the balloon here.
It just happens to be memory info.  Second, I would never enable
balloon in a guest that I want to be performance-sensitive.  So even
if you add this as part of balloon, you'll find no one is using this
solution.

Secondly, I suggest virtio-serial, because it's meant exactly to
exchange free-flowing information between a host and a guest, and you
don't need to extend any part of the protocol for it (hence no changes
necessary to the spec).  You can see how spice, vnc, etc., use
virtio-serial to exchange data.


		Amit

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Re: [RFC qemu 0/4] A PV solution for live migration optimization Amit Shah <amit.shah@redhat.com> - 2016-03-08 12:20 +0100
  RE: [RFC qemu 0/4] A PV solution for live migration optimization "Li, Liang Z" <liang.z.li@intel.com> - 2016-03-08 14:20 +0100
  RE: [RFC qemu 0/4] A PV solution for live migration optimization "Li, Liang Z" <liang.z.li@intel.com> - 2016-03-10 08:50 +0100
    Re: [RFC qemu 0/4] A PV solution for live migration optimization Amit Shah <amit.shah@redhat.com> - 2016-03-10 09:00 +0100
      RE: [RFC qemu 0/4] A PV solution for live migration optimization "Li, Liang Z" <liang.z.li@intel.com> - 2016-03-10 09:40 +0100
        Re: [RFC qemu 0/4] A PV solution for live migration optimization "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com> - 2016-03-10 12:20 +0100
          RE: [RFC qemu 0/4] A PV solution for live migration optimization "Li, Liang Z" <liang.z.li@intel.com> - 2016-03-11 03:40 +0100
            Re: [RFC qemu 0/4] A PV solution for live migration optimization "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com> - 2016-03-14 18:10 +0100
              RE: [RFC qemu 0/4] A PV solution for live migration optimization "Li, Liang Z" <liang.z.li@intel.com> - 2016-03-15 04:40 +0100
              Re: [RFC qemu 0/4] A PV solution for live migration optimization "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> - 2016-03-15 11:40 +0100
                RE: [RFC qemu 0/4] A PV solution for live migration optimization "Li, Liang Z" <liang.z.li@intel.com> - 2016-03-15 12:20 +0100
                Re: [RFC qemu 0/4] A PV solution for live migration optimization "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com> - 2016-03-15 21:00 +0100
                RE: [RFC qemu 0/4] A PV solution for live migration optimization "Li, Liang Z" <liang.z.li@intel.com> - 2016-03-16 02:30 +0100

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