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| From | Gary Dale <garydale@torfree.net> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | linux.debian.user |
| Subject | Re: reasons to ditch LILO before upgrading to jessie? |
| Date | 2016-07-09 05:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <rSR7P-5HH-5@gated-at.bofh.it> (permalink) |
| References | (6 earlier) <rSIxz-8ma-15@gated-at.bofh.it> <rSJjY-sh-9@gated-at.bofh.it> <rSK6m-JU-13@gated-at.bofh.it> <rSMhP-2tk-1@gated-at.bofh.it> <rSN4d-318-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
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On 08/07/16 07:06 PM, Brian wrote:
> On Fri 08 Jul 2016 at 18:13:01 -0400, Gary Dale wrote:
>
>>>> On 08/07/16 02:19 PM, Brian wrote:
>>> If you have some way of easily adjusting files in /etc/grub.d to the
>>> needs of a user I wish you would say.
>> So that's the problem. You never took the time to RTFM. See
>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Setup#File_Structure
> That page, no matter how informative it may be, is not the manual. My
> comment was intended to elicit some specific technical advice on how to
> adjust an /etc/grub.d file(s) to perform a particular task. Something
> like the topic in
>
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2016/07/msg00278.html
>
> Using labels in a hand written grub.cfg is a snap. Stopping it being
> overwritten is another snap. Perhaps altering file X in grub.d is just
> as easy and unstressful.
>
> Maybe one day I will read 'pinfo grub'. :)
True enough, but it shows how much good information there is out there.
As for altering the correct files, it is just as easy and unstressful.
>
>>>> same change either way but the grub template file won't get clobbered so
>>>> there is no need to run dpkg-divert.
>>> It's not the same change. ("grub template file". What is that? There
>>> isn't one as far as I can see).
>> Again, RTFM. There are lots of files for you to tinker with in /etc/grub.d.
>> You can even add your own and it's guaranteed not be tampered with by any
>> updates.
> So there are. Users should stay away from them (40_custom excepted)
> unless they know what they are doing.
Same is true for altering any file.
>
>>>> Moreover, you don't need to update a system manual to note that you are
>>>> diverting a package. You just need to note that a single file is not the
>>>> package maintainers default - something you have to do either way.
>>> Diverting is a Debian thing. The GRUB manual would never mention it.
>>>
>> No, but you do have to document each system that you are running. If you are
>> doing anything that is not standard, it has to be recorded so that the next
>> person (or you 3 months later) will know that you've done it.
>>
>> I gather from your comment that you aren't doing this. That's asking for
>> trouble, especially if you are running custom configurations and protecting
>> them with diversions. Complexity added onto complexity without documentation
>> is a good recipe for disaster.
> I cannot argue with that.
>
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