Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release

From	"Rebecca N. Palmer" <rebecca_palmer@zoho.com>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.devel, linux.debian.devel.release, linux.debian.maint.boot, linux.debian.ports.arm
Subject	Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release
Date	2016-07-05 09:50 +0200
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Would it be possible/reasonable (at least for stretch) to have the 
installer detect this and ask "your hardware appears to be too new for 
this release, would you like to enable -backports?"

On 04/07/16 23:38, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> As I understand it, xserver-xorg-video-modesetting should be used
> instead of xserver-xorg-video-intel, for chips supported by the i915
> kernel driver.  So the latter should be changed to limit the device IDs
> it claims, then both of them should be backported.

This appears to be causing at least one actual problem: 
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=828087

(The other backports-kernel bugs known to me are 
https://lists.debian.org/debian-backports/2016/06/threads.html#00133 
(appears to be fixed in 4.6) and 
https://lists.debian.org/debian-backports/2016/06/threads.html#00139 (no 
details yet)).

Russell Stuart wrote:
> Currently 4.6.0 doesn't work with skylake for me when I plug in a
> 3440x1440 monitor on a Dell XPS 9550, both with and without xserver-
> xorg-video-intel installed.  It never has worked reliably on any kernel
> version.  Currently, the monitor works maybe 20% of the time - so if
> you persist for 5 boots you've got a reasonable chance of getting
> lucky. The only noticeable change from 4.5 to 4.6 is in the kernel
> backtraces produced - they have got fewer, and they are only warnings
> now.

Have you reported this bug (with the full warnings)?  If not, please do so.

Thread

Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2016-07-04 15:10 +0200
  Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org> - 2016-07-04 15:20 +0200
    Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Philipp Kern <pkern@debian.org> - 2016-07-04 15:30 +0200
      Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org> - 2016-07-04 18:10 +0200
        Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Philipp Kern <pkern@debian.org> - 2016-07-10 19:40 +0200
          Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org> - 2016-07-10 20:50 +0200
    Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Nicholas D Steeves <nsteeves@gmail.com> - 2016-07-04 22:10 +0200
      Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2016-07-05 00:40 +0200
        Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Russell Stuart <russell-debian@stuart.id.au> - 2016-07-05 02:10 +0200
        Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release "Rebecca N. Palmer" <rebecca_palmer@zoho.com> - 2016-07-05 09:50 +0200
          Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Russell Stuart <russell-debian@stuart.id.au> - 2016-07-05 10:10 +0200
          Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2016-07-05 18:00 +0200
        Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Nicholas D Steeves <nsteeves@gmail.com> - 2016-07-09 05:20 +0200
          Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2016-07-09 13:10 +0200
            Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org> - 2016-09-07 22:20 +0200
              Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2016-09-08 01:30 +0200
      Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2016-07-05 10:40 +0200
      Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2016-07-05 20:20 +0200
        Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org> - 2016-07-05 21:10 +0200
        Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2016-07-06 00:50 +0200
          Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2016-07-06 09:40 +0200
            Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2016-07-06 10:00 +0200
              Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2016-07-06 10:10 +0200
              Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2016-07-06 10:10 +0200
    Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2016-07-05 10:30 +0200
  Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Jose R R <Jose.r.r@metztli-it.com> - 2016-07-04 16:10 +0200
  Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2016-07-04 19:10 +0200
    Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Mark Brown <broonie@debian.org> - 2016-07-05 10:40 +0200
      Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2016-07-05 11:00 +0200
        Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Mark Brown <broonie@debian.org> - 2016-07-05 11:30 +0200
    Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2016-07-06 00:40 +0200
  Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Christian Seiler <christian@iwakd.de> - 2016-07-05 11:10 +0200
    Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Jose R R <Jose.r.r@metztli-it.com> - 2016-07-05 12:50 +0200
      Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Samuel Henrique <samueloph@gmail.com> - 2016-07-05 14:50 +0200
        Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Nicholas D Steeves <nsteeves@gmail.com> - 2016-07-09 04:30 +0200
  Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Martin Zobel-Helas <zobel@debian.org> - 2016-07-05 14:40 +0200
    Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2016-07-06 00:50 +0200
  Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Breno Leitao <brenohl@br.ibm.com> - 2016-07-05 21:40 +0200
    Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2016-07-06 00:50 +0200
      Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Breno Leitao <brenohl@br.ibm.com> - 2016-07-06 17:50 +0200
  Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> - 2016-07-06 20:20 +0200
    Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2016-07-07 10:10 +0200
    Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Timo Jyrinki <timo.jyrinki@gmail.com> - 2016-07-07 10:20 +0200
  Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Alexander Wirt <formorer@formorer.de> - 2016-07-07 12:30 +0200
    Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Riku Voipio <riku.voipio@iki.fi> - 2016-07-07 13:30 +0200
  Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Riku Voipio <riku.voipio@iki.fi> - 2016-07-07 12:30 +0200
  Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2016-07-12 15:50 +0200
    Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Nicholas D Steeves <nsteeves@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 04:00 +0200
    Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org> - 2016-09-07 22:30 +0200
  Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 05:50 +0200
    Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Nicholas D Steeves <nsteeves@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 16:20 +0200
    Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2016-09-08 16:30 +0200
      Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 15:10 +0200

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