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| From | Manfred <noname@add.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.c++ |
| Subject | Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? |
| Date | 2019-12-28 20:11 +0100 |
| Organization | Aioe.org NNTP Server |
| Message-ID | <qu89co$eom$1@gioia.aioe.org> (permalink) |
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On 12/27/2019 11:24 PM, T wrote: > On 2019-12-27 14:15, Öö Tiib wrote: >> On Friday, 27 December 2019 23:55:34 UTC+2, T wrote: >>> On 2019-12-27 13:42, Alf P. Steinbach wrote: >>>> On 27.12.2019 22:24, T wrote: >>>>> Hi All, >>>>> >>>>> In C++, when you make a call to Windows Kernel32.dll >>>>> and it wants a NULL for one or more of its parameters, >>>>> what exactly is the structure of a NULL? A 32 bit >>>>> word full of zeros? >>>> >>>> There have been systems where a nullpointer was not all bits 0. >>>> >>>> If current PC operating systems had supported pointers with segment >>>> selectors, that would have been the situation on PC's today. However, >>>> reasonable OSes like Windows and Linux just set up a process with one >>>> big single segment, where all the app's pointers are offsets in that >>>> segment. And then a nullpointer is really all bits 0. >>>> >>>> Nullvalues of integral type are necessarily all bits 0, because the >>>> standard requires a binary representation of integral types. In C++20 >>>> that will be further restricted to two's complement form. In contrast, >>>> and 0 as a floating point value is not necessarily all bits 0, although >>>> the common IEEE 754 representation (which in particular is used on the >>>> PC: that's where the standard originated) has that property. >>>> >>>> - Alf >>> >>> Since Kernel32.dll uses 32 bit words as pointers, a 32 bit >>> word will all zero's it is. Thank you! >> >> >> Calm down. On windows kernel32.dll is name of kernel access library. >> That name does not say what size of pointers it handles since it is >> same for 32-bit and 64-bit subsystem. Kernel64.dll does not exist on >> windows. >> >> Several of people reading this group use windows rarely or not >> at all so stop posting constant lies and nonsense about it. >> >> > > What size is it then? 32 or 64 or do you have to figure out > if you are running a 32 bit or 64 bit edition of Windows first? > If you are running 32 bit windows, then it uses only 32-bit pointers. If you are running 64 bit windows, then it depends on the calling process (as there exist 2 versions of kernel32.dll, one for 64bit processes and one for 32bit processes). If you are still using Perl, then this means the Perl interpreter, but I guess the Perl doc should give some info on how to use pointers in native calls.
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What is the data structure of a NULL? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2019-12-27 13:24 -0800
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2019-12-28 10:36 +1300
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2019-12-27 13:55 -0800
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? Bo Persson <bo@bo-persson.se> - 2019-12-28 11:28 +0100
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2019-12-27 20:50 -0500
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2019-12-28 17:14 -0800
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2020-01-10 20:56 -0800
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? "Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com> - 2019-12-27 22:42 +0100
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2019-12-27 13:55 -0800
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? "Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com> - 2019-12-27 23:10 +0100
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-27 14:15 -0800
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2019-12-27 14:24 -0800
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-27 14:41 -0800
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? Manfred <noname@add.invalid> - 2019-12-28 20:11 +0100
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2019-12-28 17:16 -0800
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? Manfred <noname@invalid.add> - 2019-12-29 17:52 +0100
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2019-12-29 12:21 -0800
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-12-28 01:46 +0000
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2019-12-28 17:17 -0800
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-12-29 01:42 +0000
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2019-12-28 18:39 -0800
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2019-12-28 02:14 -0800
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2019-12-28 08:33 -0600
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Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2019-12-28 16:02 -0800
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Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2019-12-28 22:37 -0600
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2019-12-28 21:12 -0800
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2019-12-29 04:45 -0600
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2019-12-29 13:31 -0800
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2019-12-29 21:34 -0600
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Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2019-12-29 20:20 -0500
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2019-12-29 21:50 -0600
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2019-12-29 22:46 -0800
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-30 10:25 +0100
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2019-12-30 05:20 -0600
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-30 17:24 +0100
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2019-12-30 17:22 -0600
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-31 13:57 +0100
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2019-12-31 07:33 -0600
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-31 15:45 +0100
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2019-12-30 18:16 +0000
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2019-12-30 10:45 -0800
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2019-12-30 17:29 -0600
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2019-12-30 21:48 -0800
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2019-12-30 04:19 -0600
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-30 17:27 +0100
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-30 03:25 -0800
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2019-12-31 21:54 +0000
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2019-12-30 06:03 -0800
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2019-12-30 17:01 -0600
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2019-12-30 21:42 -0500
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2019-12-31 06:03 -0600
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-31 06:17 -0800
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2019-12-31 10:46 -0600
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-12-31 16:57 +0000
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-31 18:15 +0100
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2019-12-31 11:20 -0800
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-01-01 17:01 +0100
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2019-12-31 11:21 -0600
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2019-12-31 21:37 +0000
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2019-12-31 15:21 -0800
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? Chris Vine <chris@cvine--nospam--.freeserve.co.uk> - 2019-12-31 17:26 +0000
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2019-12-31 23:30 -0500
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? Manfred <noname@add.invalid> - 2020-01-01 18:10 +0100
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-01-01 12:21 -0500
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? Chris Vine <chris@cvine--nospam--.freeserve.co.uk> - 2019-12-31 15:20 +0000
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2019-12-31 11:11 -0800
Re: What is the data structure of a NULL? Chris Vine <chris@cvine--nospam--.freeserve.co.uk> - 2019-12-31 19:47 +0000
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