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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.c++ |
| Subject | Re: "Microsoft Exploring Rust as the Solution for Safe Software" |
| Date | 2019-12-11 14:17 -0800 |
| Organization | Aioe.org NNTP Server |
| Message-ID | <qsrpu9$1ba3$1@gioia.aioe.org> (permalink) |
| References | <qs3qep$qbe$1@dont-email.me> <qsp1hq$rc6$1@dont-email.me> <qsqe3v$h50$1@gioia.aioe.org> <ea8b14ca-eefa-4878-be5e-78e944de9f1f@googlegroups.com> |
On 12/11/2019 3:13 AM, James Kuyper wrote: > On Wednesday, December 11, 2019 at 4:50:06 AM UTC-5, bol...@nowhere.co.uk wrote: > ... >> Perhaps I was spoilt - I went straight from 8 bit at home to unix at university >> so I was used to using HP-UX and Solaris at 21. Then I was introduced to >> Windows. It was like going from a Ferrari to a Lada and NT didn't nothing to >> dispel that imagine. It crashed, it had to rebooted once a week as it had >> a serious memory leak issues and it was a slow as a dog. If that was a breath >> of fresh air then god knows what you were breathing beforehand. > > As I remember it, NT almost never crashed, One time I created a little program that would try to crash NT using a build up of non-pageable memory. It took mem from the non-paged pool, iirc. This can be done using IOCP. Each pending request is in non-pageable memory. The result was a crashed system. This can happen in a server using IOCP, its a real problem indeed. So, during server setup, my test program tried to stress the system to certain breaking point(s), then setup a configuration file that had the limits hardcoded. > but I'm not sure what I meant > by "almost never" when I formed that memory. Windows 3.1 typically > crashed several times per day for me, so a weekly crash might have felt > like "almost never" by comparison. > > Like you, my experience with Unix pre-dated my experience with either > DOS or Windows, and those Unix systems were very reliable. However, > those systems were mainframes being maintained by professional > sysadmins; I would not have dreamed of expecting the same reliability > from a desktop machine that I maintained myself. >
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