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Re: "Microsoft Exploring Rust as the Solution for Safe Software"

From David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c++
Subject Re: "Microsoft Exploring Rust as the Solution for Safe Software"
Date 2019-12-10 11:18 +0100
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On 10/12/2019 10:58, Ned Latham wrote:
> David Brown wrote:
>> Ned Latham wrote:
>>> Ian Collins wrote:
>>>> Ned Latham wrote:
>>>>> Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>>>>> Ned Latham writes:
>>>>>>> Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> NT3.51 and NT4.0 (Win2k) both contained portions of Windows
>>>>>>>> 3.1 in the so-called 'Windows on Windows' subsystem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> IOW, a partial emulator?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WoW used the intel vm86 mode to execute pure win3.1 code.
>>>>>
>>>>> Amazing. I cannot fathom why anyone would want backwards compatibility
>>>>> with such a dud.
>>>>
>>>> Games.
>>>
>>> That's pathetic. (No wonder they called it WoW.)
>>
>> That is either blatant snobbery, or you are seriously out of touch with
>> the technological world.
> 
> Or maybe I'm just aware of how much better modern games are than the games
> of those days were.
> 

There are different opinions on that - people vary significantly on the
kind of game they like.  You don't get many new players of old games,
but old players can often keep their old games for quite a while - long
after they have changed to newer versions of other software.  And WoW
comes from the early NT days - the main consumer OS was 16-bit Windows
(with gradually increasing 32-bit proportions) until Windows XP in 2001.

>> Games are not the only use for old software and emulation, but they are
>> a very substantial part of it.
> 
> Your reply implied that in this case they are the whole of it. As a reason
> for going to the bother of installing a win3.1 emulator, that's pathetic.
> 

That comment implies you have mixed up posters in this thread.

But yes, I expect that playing old games is a fairly common reason (but
certainly not the only reason) for installing a Win 3.1 emulator on a
newer system.  That does not mean it is something many people will do in
absolute terms.

And no, it is not pathetic.  You don't get to judge people's preferences
as "pathetic" just because they have a favourite game that was written
long ago.  That is definitely snobbery.

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"Microsoft Exploring Rust as the Solution for Safe Software" Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2019-12-02 13:59 -0600
  Re: "Microsoft Exploring Rust as the Solution for Safe Software" Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-02 12:33 -0800
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              Re: "Microsoft Exploring Rust as the Solution for Safe Software" Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2019-12-10 15:09 +1300
                Re: "Microsoft Exploring Rust as the Solution for Safe Software" Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2019-12-09 20:30 -0600
                Re: "Microsoft Exploring Rust as the Solution for Safe Software" David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-10 09:06 +0100
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                Re: "Microsoft Exploring Rust as the Solution for Safe Software" David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-10 11:18 +0100
                Re: "Microsoft Exploring Rust as the Solution for Safe Software" Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2019-12-10 05:37 -0600
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                Re: "Microsoft Exploring Rust as the Solution for Safe Software" Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2019-12-10 11:43 -0600
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