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| From | David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.c++, comp.lang.c |
| Subject | Re: NIHS (Was: "Microsoft Exploring Rust as the Solution for Safe Software") |
| Date | 2019-12-03 16:24 +0100 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <qs5un1$9tu$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
| References | <qs3qep$qbe$1@dont-email.me> <qs4qb5$1qt5$1@gioia.aioe.org> <qs5aik$sjo$3@news.xmission.com> <qs5e3e$91s$1@dont-email.me> <qs5h5n$i9$1@news.xmission.com> |
Cross-posted to 2 groups.
On 03/12/2019 12:33, Kenny McCormack wrote: > In article <qs5e3e$91s$1@dont-email.me>, > David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote: > ... >>> >>> Not Invented Here Syndrome. >> >> Not /Controlled/ Here Syndrome. >> >> MS were quite happy to support Java as long as they could make their own >> incompatible version. When the courts said they were not allowed to do >> that (and still call it "Java"), they went off in a huff and made C# as >> their own alternative to Java which /they/ controlled. > > Well, they controlled it because they had invented it. Actually, I believe a fair amount of the work on dotnet / CLR was by Borland originally, within their Delphi range. But I am not sure about that (and it's getting a good deal off-topic here, even though they made C++ compilers). > > I don't think we really disagree much here. Not much, no, but you have the logic reversed. It is not "MS made C#, so they get to control that language" - it is "MS wanted a language they controlled, so they made C#". > > P.S. People often talk as if C# was invented by itself, as a standalone > language. In fact, C# is just one member of the .NET/CLR family. I think > of VB.NET as the primary .NET language. I suppose C# comes next after VB. >
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