Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]

From	Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]
Date	2015-10-18 21:20 +0200
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On Sunday 18 October 2015 19:55:58 Brian wrote:
> On Sun 18 Oct 2015 at 17:44:55 +0200, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 04:55:10PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > > I'd also like the copy to the list to land in my list folder, not be
> > > discarded.
> >
> > The ultimate feature is just a duplicate filter (a couple of lines of
> > procmail). You'll have to configure the "mail sorter" (you're probably
> > using KMail) accoringly, because probably the "copy for you" will
> > arrive earlier.
>
> Isn't this the essence of the problem? The couple of lines of procmail
> will put the first mail ("copy for you") in the inbox. The actual list
> mail will probably be disposed of.

Yes, it is.

> > See this thread in... debian-user[1], of all things (from 2003) where
> > our ancestors hashed this out already (with some recipes). Just ask if
> > you decide to use procmail (I am, alas, a KMail analphabet myself).
> >
> > [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/10/msg05065.html
>
> There is nothing there which I can see ensures the list mail ends up in
> the list folder,

tomas said:
Yes, you are right about the CoC part. Still, if someone is picky about *not*
being cc'ed, I'd consider it polite to at least do his/her part and express
this wish with the headers in use for this purpose. At least *before* scolding
others <:*)

Well, I am picky about not being cc'ed.  I have tried to be polite.  I have 
asked tomas, who thinks I should do something in my headers, how to do it.   
He tells me I can't.  So now I feel free to "scold others". 

The CoC says not to send cc's unless specifically requested.  It is not a lot 
to ask that people should follow the CoC.  And I shall start following the 
CoC and complaining, off list, every time, to everyone who cc's me.  Perhaps 
then they will stop this pain of a practice.

It is perfectly reasonable that people should be asked to do one of three 
things:
1) subscribe 
or
2) read the archives 
or
3) request a copy.

Lisi

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direct ethernet connection between computer and printer rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-10-15 08:10 +0200
  Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2015-10-15 08:40 +0200
    Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-10-15 10:00 +0200
      Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2015-10-15 14:00 +0200
        Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-10-15 15:20 +0200
          Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2015-10-15 16:50 +0200
        Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer Doug <dmcgarrett@optonline.net> - 2015-10-15 21:50 +0200
          Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-10-15 22:20 +0200
        Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-10-15 22:10 +0200
          Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-10-15 22:40 +0200
            Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-15 22:50 +0200
              Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-10-15 23:00 +0200
                Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2015-10-15 23:20 +0200
                Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-10-15 23:50 +0200
                Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-10-16 00:20 +0200
                Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-10-16 01:00 +0200
                Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-10-16 10:30 +0200
                Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2015-10-16 09:50 +0200
                Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-15 23:40 +0200
          Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-10-15 22:40 +0200
          Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2015-10-15 23:00 +0200
            Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-10-16 00:20 +0200
              Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2015-10-16 06:10 +0200
          Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2015-10-15 23:00 +0200
            Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2015-10-15 23:20 +0200
              Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2015-10-15 23:30 +0200
                Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-10-16 00:10 +0200
                Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2015-10-16 00:30 +0200
                Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-10-16 01:00 +0200
                Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2015-10-16 09:40 +0200
                Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-10-16 10:20 +0200
                Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2015-10-16 11:40 +0200
                Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2015-10-16 16:30 +0200
          Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2015-10-15 23:10 +0200
            Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-10-16 00:20 +0200
    Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2015-10-15 22:10 +0200
      Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2015-10-15 22:40 +0200
    Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2015-10-17 18:00 +0200
      Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2015-10-17 21:20 +0200
        Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2015-10-17 23:00 +0200
          Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was:  direct ethernet connection between computer and printer] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2015-10-18 09:10 +0200
            Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest  [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer] Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2015-10-18 12:10 +0200
              Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest  [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2015-10-18 17:40 +0200
                Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer] Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-18 18:00 +0200
                Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest  [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2015-10-18 18:30 +0200
                Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest  [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer] Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-10-18 21:00 +0200
                Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer] Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-18 21:20 +0200
                Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest  [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2015-10-18 22:00 +0200
                Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest  [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer] Chris Bannister <cbannister@slingshot.co.nz> - 2015-10-19 05:50 +0200
                Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest  [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer] Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2015-10-19 09:30 +0200
                Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer] Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-19 09:40 +0200
                Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest  [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2015-10-19 09:30 +0200
                Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer] Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-19 09:40 +0200
                Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer] Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-19 09:30 +0200
                Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest  [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2015-10-18 22:00 +0200
                Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest  [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer] Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-10-18 23:50 +0200
                Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest  [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2015-10-19 09:40 +0200
                Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer] Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-19 09:40 +0200
                Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest  [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2015-10-19 18:20 +0200
                Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer] Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-19 23:40 +0200
                Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest  [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2015-10-20 09:30 +0200
                Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was:  direct ethernet connection between computer and printer] Joel Rees <joel.rees@gmail.com> - 2015-10-22 02:10 +0200
                Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest  [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer] Chris Bannister <cbannister@slingshot.co.nz> - 2015-10-19 10:50 +0200
                Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer] Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-19 12:10 +0200
        Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-18 00:00 +0200
          Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-10-18 01:20 +0200
            Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2015-10-18 09:20 +0200
          Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2015-10-18 09:20 +0200
          Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer Chris Bannister <cbannister@slingshot.co.nz> - 2015-10-18 10:40 +0200
      Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-10-17 21:40 +0200
  Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer Martin Smith <lists@rakupottery.org.uk> - 2015-10-15 09:50 +0200
    Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-10-15 10:10 +0200
  Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2015-10-15 10:20 +0200
    Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-10-15 10:50 +0200
      Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-10-15 15:40 +0200

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