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Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]

From Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]
Date 2015-10-18 23:50 +0200
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On Sun 18 Oct 2015 at 21:17:46 +0200, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:

> On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 07:55:58PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > On Sun 18 Oct 2015 at 17:44:55 +0200, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > 
> > > On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 04:55:10PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I'd also like the copy to the list to land in my list folder, not be 
> > > > discarded.
> > > 
> > > The ultimate feature is just a duplicate filter (a couple of lines of
> > > procmail). You'll have to configure the "mail sorter" (you're probably
> > > using KMail) accoringly, because probably the "copy for you" will
> > > arrive earlier.
> > 
> > Isn't this the essence of the problem? The couple of lines of procmail
> > will put the first mail ("copy for you") in the inbox. The actual list
> > mail will probably be disposed of.
> 
> You have to refine your filters a bit, but it's definitely possible.

I know it is, but not with a simple three or four line procmail recipe
alone.

> > > See this thread in... debian-user[1], of all things (from 2003) where
> > > our ancestors hashed this out already (with some recipes). Just ask if
> > > you decide to use procmail (I am, alas, a KMail analphabet myself).
> > > 
> > > [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/10/msg05065.html
> > 
> > There is nothing there which I can see ensures the list mail ends up in
> > the list folder,
> 
> That's right. But you can catch most of it.

Even if "most" is possible it is not good enough.

A thread of more recent vintage is at

  https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2013/03/msg00012.html

There is a technique (and an implementation of it) described which
ensures list mails get to a list folder and CCs are deleted. See what
you think.

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direct ethernet connection between computer and printer rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-10-15 08:10 +0200
  Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2015-10-15 08:40 +0200
    Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-10-15 10:00 +0200
      Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2015-10-15 14:00 +0200
        Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-10-15 15:20 +0200
          Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2015-10-15 16:50 +0200
        Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer Doug <dmcgarrett@optonline.net> - 2015-10-15 21:50 +0200
          Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-10-15 22:20 +0200
        Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-10-15 22:10 +0200
          Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-10-15 22:40 +0200
            Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-15 22:50 +0200
              Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-10-15 23:00 +0200
                Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2015-10-15 23:20 +0200
                Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-10-15 23:50 +0200
                Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-10-16 00:20 +0200
                Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-10-16 01:00 +0200
                Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-10-16 10:30 +0200
                Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2015-10-16 09:50 +0200
                Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-15 23:40 +0200
          Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-10-15 22:40 +0200
          Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2015-10-15 23:00 +0200
            Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-10-16 00:20 +0200
              Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2015-10-16 06:10 +0200
          Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2015-10-15 23:00 +0200
            Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2015-10-15 23:20 +0200
              Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2015-10-15 23:30 +0200
                Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-10-16 00:10 +0200
                Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2015-10-16 00:30 +0200
                Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-10-16 01:00 +0200
                Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2015-10-16 09:40 +0200
                Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-10-16 10:20 +0200
                Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2015-10-16 11:40 +0200
                Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2015-10-16 16:30 +0200
          Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2015-10-15 23:10 +0200
            Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-10-16 00:20 +0200
    Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2015-10-15 22:10 +0200
      Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2015-10-15 22:40 +0200
    Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2015-10-17 18:00 +0200
      Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2015-10-17 21:20 +0200
        Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2015-10-17 23:00 +0200
          Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was:  direct ethernet connection between computer and printer] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2015-10-18 09:10 +0200
            Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest  [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer] Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2015-10-18 12:10 +0200
              Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest  [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2015-10-18 17:40 +0200
                Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer] Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-18 18:00 +0200
                Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest  [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2015-10-18 18:30 +0200
                Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest  [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer] Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-10-18 21:00 +0200
                Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer] Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-18 21:20 +0200
                Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest  [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2015-10-18 22:00 +0200
                Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest  [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer] Chris Bannister <cbannister@slingshot.co.nz> - 2015-10-19 05:50 +0200
                Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest  [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer] Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2015-10-19 09:30 +0200
                Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer] Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-19 09:40 +0200
                Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest  [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2015-10-19 09:30 +0200
                Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer] Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-19 09:40 +0200
                Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer] Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-19 09:30 +0200
                Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest  [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2015-10-18 22:00 +0200
                Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest  [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer] Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-10-18 23:50 +0200
                Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest  [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2015-10-19 09:40 +0200
                Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer] Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-19 09:40 +0200
                Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest  [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2015-10-19 18:20 +0200
                Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer] Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-19 23:40 +0200
                Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest  [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2015-10-20 09:30 +0200
                Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was:  direct ethernet connection between computer and printer] Joel Rees <joel.rees@gmail.com> - 2015-10-22 02:10 +0200
                Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest  [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer] Chris Bannister <cbannister@slingshot.co.nz> - 2015-10-19 10:50 +0200
                Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer] Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-19 12:10 +0200
        Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-18 00:00 +0200
          Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-10-18 01:20 +0200
            Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2015-10-18 09:20 +0200
          Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2015-10-18 09:20 +0200
          Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer Chris Bannister <cbannister@slingshot.co.nz> - 2015-10-18 10:40 +0200
      Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-10-17 21:40 +0200
  Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer Martin Smith <lists@rakupottery.org.uk> - 2015-10-15 09:50 +0200
    Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-10-15 10:10 +0200
  Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2015-10-15 10:20 +0200
    Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-10-15 10:50 +0200
      Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-10-15 15:40 +0200

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