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Re: How to get standard paths?!?

From Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c++
Subject Re: How to get standard paths?!?
Date 2019-08-17 16:28 +0200
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> MS was early in the "Unicode" game by using UCS-2 in Windows NT.  They 
> get credit for trying, IMHO.  But it quickly became apparent that 16 
> bits was not sufficient, and anyone who was not tied to Windows used 
> 32-bit utf-32 when they needed "one object is one character", typically 
> for internal use only, and utf-8 when they wanted strings.  If only MS 
> had taken the hit and made the changes while they still could, it would 
> have avoided the hideous mess that resulted with the painful 16-bit 
> types.  16-bit is too short to hold all the Unicode characters, but long 
> enough to have all the disadvantages of wasted space and endianness 
> issues.  And now we are left with the jumble that is five different 
> character types in C++ (not including signed and unsigned versions), MS' 
> influence putting utf-16 nonsense into the C++ standards, and of course 
> other platform-independent languages (Java, Python) and libraries (QT) 
> using utf-16 or ucs-16 to be compatible with MS's error.

We were not talking about UTF-whatever. We were talking about wchar_t
or more precisely std::u16sting. You can store 16 bit characters in the
latter as well as UTF-16-seqences in this.
We were talking about that you can almost rely on the fact that wchar_t
is 16 bits wide. There might be ancient CPU-architectures where the re-
gisters aren't 8, 16, ... bits wide but you can be certain that no one
would implement a conforming C++-compiler for these systems.

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How to get standard paths?!? Szyk Cech <szykcech@spoko.pl> - 2019-08-17 13:58 +0200
  Re: How to get standard paths?!? "Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com> - 2019-08-17 14:02 +0200
    Re: How to get standard paths?!? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-08-17 14:05 +0200
      Re: How to get standard paths?!? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-08-17 15:11 +0200
        Re: How to get standard paths?!? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-08-17 15:59 +0200
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            Re: How to get standard paths?!? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-08-17 16:28 +0200
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                Re: How to get standard paths?!? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-08-25 15:54 +0200
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                Re: How to get standard paths?!? "Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com> - 2019-08-19 09:32 +0200
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                Re: How to get standard paths?!? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-08-17 18:06 +0200
                Re: How to get standard paths?!? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-08-17 20:24 +0200
                Re: How to get standard paths?!? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-08-18 08:49 +0200
                Re: How to get standard paths?!? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-08-18 11:46 +0200
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                Re: How to get standard paths?!? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2019-08-18 15:40 +0000
                Re: How to get standard paths?!? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-08-18 17:44 +0200
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                Re: How to get standard paths?!? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-08-18 17:46 +0200
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                Re: How to get standard paths?!? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-08-18 12:07 +0200
                Re: How to get standard paths?!? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-08-18 13:05 +0200
                Re: How to get standard paths?!? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-08-18 14:48 +0200
                Re: How to get standard paths?!? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-08-18 15:51 +0200
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                Re: How to get standard paths?!? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-08-18 12:24 +0200
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