Re: Life after Windows 7

From	Rich <rich@example.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.misc
Subject	Re: Life after Windows 7
Date	2019-05-21 11:28 +0000
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
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Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote:
> Alas, I don't think that's an option for my family members, and I see 
> Windows 10 in their futures, which probably means that I'll end up 
> dealing with the issues that arise when its behaviour its modified 
> without warning with updates.

Do these family members use desktops with screens and mice, or do they 
use tablets?  I'm presuming desktops, screens, mice, given that you 
imply they are still on W7.

If so, you'll probably first have to deal with the huge change in 
appearance in just going to W10.  Esp. if these family members are 
within the typical group that tends to be resistant to change in the 
first place and that tend to learn computer UI's by memorizing the 
physical positions of groups of pixels without understanding the 
underlying "request" they are presenting to the program they are using.

Nothing will look the same to them, and if they are members of that 
"change resistant" group, and have memorized physical positions of 
controls instead of understanding the underlining request, they will 
have a hard time adapting.  Which means they will likely be just as 
lost navigating around the "new look" of W10 as they were when they 
first encountered a computer.  And your task of hand-holding them 
through discovering where to poke will not be made any easier by the 
new "everything looks the same, and nothing has any contrast or 
separation from anything else" look of the UI.

The "it all looks the same, and has no contrast" look is largely 
related to the fact that MS seems to have decided that there seem to be 
only four colors in the world, #000000, #ffffff, #eeeeee, and #dddddd, 
and every UI highlight has to be done using only those four, and basic 
black must be avoided in almost all cases [1].  So one ends up with 
pale shades of white on pale shades of white that are almost identical 
where one used to have a clear window boundary, or a clear boundary 
around a button, or some such.  Those who have memorized the physical 
look of W7 (vs.  what the things on screen "do") will have quite a bit 
of difficulty making the switch.  Oh, and there are no longer any 
window borders around the sides or bottoms of windows.  Well..., they 
are there, but they are invisible borders around the edges that you 
only realize are present because the mouse pointer changes to one of 
the "resize arrow" pointers.  The "memorize the physical pixel 
positions" type users will have a hard time with those as well.

[1] meaning where one might have had a button with a label "save" and a 
    square or round border of one or two black pixels to make it look 
    "button like", instead with W10 one has the word "save" floating in 
    a sea of stark white (#ffffff) with a border of "slighly less 
    intense white" (#eeeeee or #dddddd).  Making the border all but 
    invisible without a perfectly tuned screen, perfect room lighting, 
    and nearly perfect vision.

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Life after Windows 7 Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2019-05-21 13:07 +1000
  Re: Life after Windows 7 Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2019-05-21 07:27 +0000
    Re: Life after Windows 7 Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2019-05-21 19:17 +1000
  Re: Life after Windows 7 Bruce Horrocks <07.013@scorecrow.com> - 2019-05-21 11:09 +0100
    Re: Life after Windows 7 mm0fmf <none@invalid.com> - 2019-05-29 18:19 +0100
      Re: Life after Windows 7 ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2019-05-29 21:19 -0500
        Re: Life after Windows 7 mm0fmf <none@invalid.com> - 2019-05-30 17:24 +0100
          Re: Life after Windows 7 mm0fmf <none@invalid.com> - 2019-06-02 19:11 +0100
  Re: Life after Windows 7 Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2019-05-21 10:14 +0000
    Re: Life after Windows 7 "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2019-05-21 12:54 +0200
      Re: Life after Windows 7 Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2019-05-21 10:58 +0000
      Re: Life after Windows 7 kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2019-05-21 12:28 -0400
        Re: Life after Windows 7 Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2019-05-21 19:49 +0000
        Re: Life after Windows 7 RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2019-05-22 22:30 -0400
        Re: Life after Windows 7 Stephen Hall <s__hall@gmail.com> - 2019-06-07 20:54 +0000
          Re: Life after Windows 7 RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2019-06-07 23:07 -0400
            Re: Life after Windows 7 Ryan Kavanagh <rkavanagh@cs.cmu.edu> - 2019-06-08 12:30 -0400
          Re: Life after Windows 7 kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2019-06-08 10:11 -0400
            Re: Life after Windows 7 Stephen Hall <s__hall@gmail.com> - 2019-06-08 19:31 +0000
  Re: Life after Windows 7 Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-05-21 10:47 +0000
  Re: Life after Windows 7 Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2019-05-21 11:28 +0000
  Re: Life after Windows 7 Nyssa <Nyssa@LogicalInsight.net> - 2019-05-21 08:43 -0400
  Re: Life after Windows 7 mm0fmf <none@invalid.com> - 2019-05-29 18:16 +0100
  Re: Life after Windows 7 Steve555 <Steve555@reallybogus.nodomain.nowhere.invalid> - 2019-06-16 23:00 +0000
    Re: Life after Windows 7 Steve555 <Steve555@reallybogus.nodomain.nowhere.invalid> - 2019-06-16 23:18 +0000
      Re: Life after Windows 7 Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2019-06-17 08:40 +0000
    Re: Life after Windows 7 Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2019-06-17 08:35 +0000

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