Re: A stop job is running for...

From	Jape Person <japers@comcast.net>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: A stop job is running for...
Date	2015-12-05 17:10 +0100
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On 12/05/2015 01:21 AM, Himanshu Shekhar wrote:
> Well, Google shall help! The two articles seem much technical for a kid
> like me. Still, the content made me feel that there shall be something
> convincing, which is why I posted it on this mail.
>
> 1.
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2014-February/446722.html
>           # for NTP

This post supplies two "fixes" for the NTP problem, but only by not 
allowing the service to start in the first place, or by doing what has 
been suggested earlier in the thread -- forcing the system to shut down 
without waiting. I do want my systems to benefit from syncrhonization 
with time sources. And the purpose of all of the discussion is to 
actually find out what's wrong with what component(s) of the system 
that's causing the problem in the first place.

> 2. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1044602
>                      # for CUPS
>

I actually posted that link earlier in the thread in my reply of 12/02 
to Don Armstrong. The indication is that CUPS was interacting with the 
avahi daemon both directly and indirectly (via systemd configuration). 
Especially if the problem is caused by the direct interaction, there's 
not much of anything that an end user could do to fix the problem -- 
except report it. And that would require a lot of work to figure out 
what really is the culprit. That's something that's well beyond my skill 
level, but Michael Biebl had been pursuing the matter offline by 
providing the monkey (me) with step-by-step instructions to help him 
suss out the issues.

Unfortunately, I have discovered a separate interfering issue on my 
systems which may have muddied the waters. I'm not sure whether or not 
Michael will be continuing to work on my particular problem since 
eliminating the interfering issue has essentially fixed both the CUPS 
and NTP problems for me.

> The message may be irrelevant due to lack of knowledge. So you may
> ignore it if it is so.
>
> Regards
> Himanshu Shekhar

Not at all. I appreciate your interest, and I would certainly not ignore 
you. I intend to report back with the findings in my particular case 
when I know a little more.

In the meantime, we should remember that others have reported the same 
issue with CUPS and NTP. I suspect that those others are unlikely (IMO) 
to be running systems with the same configuration as mine. So the 
problem with CUPS and NTP vs. systemd is probably real -- even if it 
might only be a corner case.

Regards,
JP

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A stop job is running for... Jape Person <japers@comcast.net> - 2015-12-01 03:20 +0100
  Re: A stop job is running for... Sven Arvidsson <sa@whiz.se> - 2015-12-01 15:50 +0100
    Re: A stop job is running for... "James P. Wallen" <jpwallen@comcast.net> - 2015-12-02 04:40 +0100
      Re: A stop job is running for... Martin Read <zen75502@zen.co.uk> - 2015-12-02 12:10 +0100
        Re: A stop job is running for... Jape Person <japers@comcast.net> - 2015-12-02 16:20 +0100
        Re: A stop job is running for... "James P. Wallen" <jpwallen@comcast.net> - 2015-12-02 16:20 +0100
          Re: A stop job is running for... Himanshu Shekhar <irm2015006@iiita.ac.in> - 2015-12-03 11:30 +0100
            Re: A stop job is running for... Jape Person <japers@comcast.net> - 2015-12-03 18:20 +0100
              Re: A stop job is running for... Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org> - 2015-12-03 19:10 +0100
                Re: A stop job is running for... Jape Person <japers@comcast.net> - 2015-12-03 21:30 +0100
                Re: A stop job is running for... Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org> - 2015-12-03 22:10 +0100
                Systemd debugging (was ... Re: A stop job is running for...) Chris Bannister <cbannister@slingshot.co.nz> - 2015-12-04 10:20 +0100
              Re: A stop job is running for... Rick Thomas <rbthomas@pobox.com> - 2015-12-03 19:30 +0100
                Re: A stop job is running for... Jape Person <japers@comcast.net> - 2015-12-03 22:20 +0100
        Re: A stop job is running for... David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2015-12-02 17:00 +0100
          Re: A stop job is running for... Jape Person <japers@comcast.net> - 2015-12-02 18:10 +0100
            Re: A stop job is running for... Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org> - 2015-12-02 18:20 +0100
              Re: A stop job is running for... Jape Person <japers@comcast.net> - 2015-12-02 19:00 +0100
                Re: A stop job is running for... Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org> - 2015-12-02 20:10 +0100
                Re: A stop job is running for... Jape Person <japers@comcast.net> - 2015-12-02 20:30 +0100
              Re: A stop job is running for... David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2015-12-06 03:30 +0100
        Re: A stop job is running for... Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2015-12-02 19:30 +0100
          Re: A stop job is running for... Jape Person <japers@comcast.net> - 2015-12-02 20:10 +0100
            Re: A stop job is running for... Don Armstrong <don@debian.org> - 2015-12-03 00:00 +0100
              Re: A stop job is running for... Jape Person <japers@comcast.net> - 2015-12-03 00:40 +0100
              Re: A stop job is running for... David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2015-12-03 20:20 +0100
                Re: A stop job is running for... Don Armstrong <don@debian.org> - 2015-12-04 19:50 +0100
                Re: A stop job is running for... Himanshu Shekhar <irm2015006@iiita.ac.in> - 2015-12-05 07:30 +0100
                Re: A stop job is running for... Jape Person <japers@comcast.net> - 2015-12-05 17:10 +0100
            Re: A stop job is running for... Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2015-12-03 02:20 +0100
              Re: A stop job is running for... Chris Bannister <cbannister@slingshot.co.nz> - 2015-12-03 03:50 +0100
                Re: A stop job is running for... "Neal P. Murphy" <neal.p.murphy@alum.wpi.edu> - 2015-12-03 04:10 +0100
                Re: A stop job is running for... Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2015-12-03 04:30 +0100
                Re: A stop job is running for... Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2015-12-03 04:30 +0100
              Re: A stop job is running for... Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2015-12-03 08:50 +0100
                Re: A stop job is running for... Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2015-12-03 12:00 +0100
                Re: A stop job is running for... <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2015-12-03 13:10 +0100

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