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Re: A stop job is running for...

From Jape Person <japers@comcast.net>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: A stop job is running for...
Date 2015-12-03 00:40 +0100
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On 12/02/2015 05:59 PM, Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Wed, 02 Dec 2015, Jape Person wrote:
>> It's occurred to me that, though I have occasionally seen service
>> shutown issues with sysv-init, they were never as pervasive or
>> repetitve as it has been since switching to systemd as the init
>> system.
>
> This is generally because sysv-init tends to not pay attention to
> whether a particular service has actually stopped. Many init scripts
> just send an appropriate signal, hope for the best, and return control.
>

Yes, that was my understanding. Sysv-init worked just fine for my my use 
cases, but I can easily see that the arrangement might not work so well 
for something like, say, a print server.

> If your goal is just to shutdown the system regardless of what is
> actually going on, that's great... but if you value your data, that's
> not really a workable solution.
>
> That said, most of these cases are bugs, not really cases where the
> daemon is actually doing something; reporting the bugs when you run into
> them will help them get fixed.
>

I finally found this older thread(1) which gave me some ideas as to how 
to proceed in trying to find the cause of the issue.

I want to be useful, but it takes a bit of time for those of us who 
fumble about in darkness to find the walls. We have to find one of those 
before we stand a chance of getting to the cave entrance. I may return 
if I don't first impale myself on a stalagmite.

;-)

JP

(1) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1044602

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A stop job is running for... Jape Person <japers@comcast.net> - 2015-12-01 03:20 +0100
  Re: A stop job is running for... Sven Arvidsson <sa@whiz.se> - 2015-12-01 15:50 +0100
    Re: A stop job is running for... "James P. Wallen" <jpwallen@comcast.net> - 2015-12-02 04:40 +0100
      Re: A stop job is running for... Martin Read <zen75502@zen.co.uk> - 2015-12-02 12:10 +0100
        Re: A stop job is running for... Jape Person <japers@comcast.net> - 2015-12-02 16:20 +0100
        Re: A stop job is running for... "James P. Wallen" <jpwallen@comcast.net> - 2015-12-02 16:20 +0100
          Re: A stop job is running for... Himanshu Shekhar <irm2015006@iiita.ac.in> - 2015-12-03 11:30 +0100
            Re: A stop job is running for... Jape Person <japers@comcast.net> - 2015-12-03 18:20 +0100
              Re: A stop job is running for... Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org> - 2015-12-03 19:10 +0100
                Re: A stop job is running for... Jape Person <japers@comcast.net> - 2015-12-03 21:30 +0100
                Re: A stop job is running for... Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org> - 2015-12-03 22:10 +0100
                Systemd debugging (was ... Re: A stop job is running for...) Chris Bannister <cbannister@slingshot.co.nz> - 2015-12-04 10:20 +0100
              Re: A stop job is running for... Rick Thomas <rbthomas@pobox.com> - 2015-12-03 19:30 +0100
                Re: A stop job is running for... Jape Person <japers@comcast.net> - 2015-12-03 22:20 +0100
        Re: A stop job is running for... David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2015-12-02 17:00 +0100
          Re: A stop job is running for... Jape Person <japers@comcast.net> - 2015-12-02 18:10 +0100
            Re: A stop job is running for... Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org> - 2015-12-02 18:20 +0100
              Re: A stop job is running for... Jape Person <japers@comcast.net> - 2015-12-02 19:00 +0100
                Re: A stop job is running for... Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org> - 2015-12-02 20:10 +0100
                Re: A stop job is running for... Jape Person <japers@comcast.net> - 2015-12-02 20:30 +0100
              Re: A stop job is running for... David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2015-12-06 03:30 +0100
        Re: A stop job is running for... Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2015-12-02 19:30 +0100
          Re: A stop job is running for... Jape Person <japers@comcast.net> - 2015-12-02 20:10 +0100
            Re: A stop job is running for... Don Armstrong <don@debian.org> - 2015-12-03 00:00 +0100
              Re: A stop job is running for... Jape Person <japers@comcast.net> - 2015-12-03 00:40 +0100
              Re: A stop job is running for... David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2015-12-03 20:20 +0100
                Re: A stop job is running for... Don Armstrong <don@debian.org> - 2015-12-04 19:50 +0100
                Re: A stop job is running for... Himanshu Shekhar <irm2015006@iiita.ac.in> - 2015-12-05 07:30 +0100
                Re: A stop job is running for... Jape Person <japers@comcast.net> - 2015-12-05 17:10 +0100
            Re: A stop job is running for... Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2015-12-03 02:20 +0100
              Re: A stop job is running for... Chris Bannister <cbannister@slingshot.co.nz> - 2015-12-03 03:50 +0100
                Re: A stop job is running for... "Neal P. Murphy" <neal.p.murphy@alum.wpi.edu> - 2015-12-03 04:10 +0100
                Re: A stop job is running for... Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2015-12-03 04:30 +0100
                Re: A stop job is running for... Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2015-12-03 04:30 +0100
              Re: A stop job is running for... Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2015-12-03 08:50 +0100
                Re: A stop job is running for... Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2015-12-03 12:00 +0100
                Re: A stop job is running for... <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2015-12-03 13:10 +0100

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