Re: C Translator

From	David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.c
Subject	Re: C Translator
Date	2019-04-02 10:49 +0200
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
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On 02/04/2019 01:50, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
> Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> writes:
> 
>> Bart <bc@freeuk.com> writes:
>>> On 01/04/2019 21:41, Keith Thompson wrote:
>>>> Bart <bc@freeuk.com> writes:
>>>>> I'll probably regret asking this, but how is that code relevant?
>>>
>>> Because DB seems to think that everyone follows coding guidelines. This 
>>> is one example of many that doesn't. Not clear coding guidelines anyway.
>>
>> David Brown said no such thing.  Here's his statement to which you
>> responded:
>>
>>     You think you are the only person that writes coding guidelines?
>>     What planet do you live on?
>>
>> Learn to read.
> 
> I think there has been a genuine misunderstanding on both sides.  David
> Brown read "no one writes to precise guidelines" as "no one writes
> precise guidelines".

No, I did not read it that way - but I can see how it looks a bit like
that.  To my mind, the reason people write coding guidelines is because
people code to those guidelines.  MISRA, Google coding standards, JSF
coding standards, and the countless company-specific coding standards
that are written are rarely "write-only" documents.  As I see it,
writing a coding guideline is step one towards /using/ a coding
guideline, and that second step was implied.  However, I could have been
more explicit.

>  Bart then misread David's remark as also being
> about writing to guidelines rather than writing the guidelines
> themselves.

Bart claimed /no one/, except him alone, writes C code to precise
guidelines.

I said that other people make coding standards - implying that these are
used by people writing C code.

Bart intentionally misinterpreted that to mean I claimed that /all/ C
code is well written, following precise guidelines.  (I believe it was
intentional - Bart is smart enough to understand what I wrote.  Past
history shows he is quite happy to make such misinterpretations if it
gives him an excuse to complain about some C code.)  So he posted a link
to some bad C code to disprove this "claim".

> 
> Reading with care on both sides would have helped, but it's easy to miss
> a word like "to" both when it's there and when you think it must be
> there.
> 

I agree that I could have been clearer.  But I don't think it would have
hindered Bart from his misinterpretation.

Thread

C Translator Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-03-28 16:16 +0000
  Re: C Translator Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-03-29 00:01 +0000
    Re: C Translator Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2019-03-28 20:31 -0500
    Re: C Translator Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2019-03-28 19:02 -0700
      Re: C Translator Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-03-29 02:34 +0000
        Re: C Translator David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-03-29 10:58 +0100
          Re: C Translator Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-03-29 12:47 +0000
            Re: C Translator David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-03-29 14:57 +0100
              Re: C Translator Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-03-29 14:57 +0000
                Re: C Translator fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2019-03-29 15:08 -0700
                Re: C Translator fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2019-03-29 15:42 -0700
              Re: C Translator scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2019-03-29 15:16 +0000
                Re: C Translator Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-03-29 15:30 +0000
                Re: C Translator fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2019-03-29 14:47 -0700
        Re: C Translator Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2019-03-29 10:42 +0000
          Re: C Translator Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-03-29 11:57 +0000
            Re: C Translator Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-03-29 13:04 +0000
            Re: C Translator David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-03-29 14:58 +0100
              Re: C Translator Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-03-29 14:29 +0000
                Re: C Translator Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2019-03-29 20:06 +0000
            Re: C Translator Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2019-03-29 20:02 +0000
              Re: C Translator Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-03-29 21:10 +0000
                Re: C Translator nobody@example.org (Scott) - 2019-03-30 04:52 +0000
                Re: C Translator Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-03-30 11:03 +0000
                Re: C Translator nobody@example.org (Scott) - 2019-03-30 16:17 +0000
                Re: C Translator Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-03-30 18:36 +0000
                Re: C Translator Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2019-03-30 20:32 +0000
                Re: C Translator Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-03-30 22:44 +0000
                Re: C Translator Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2019-03-31 03:23 +0100
                Re: C Translator Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-03-31 12:39 +0100
                Re: C Translator Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2019-03-31 15:07 +0100
                Re: C Translator Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-03-31 16:21 +0100
                Re: C Translator David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-03-31 21:19 +0200
                Re: C Translator Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-03-31 20:58 +0100
                Re: C Translator Ike Naar <ike@iceland.freeshell.org> - 2019-03-31 20:33 +0000
                Re: C Translator Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-03-31 22:06 +0100
                Re: C Translator Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2019-03-31 22:37 +0100
                Re: C Translator Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-03-31 23:33 +0100
                Re: C Translator Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2019-04-01 02:35 +0100
                Re: C Translator David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-04-01 11:33 +0200
                Re: C Translator David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-03-31 23:54 +0200
                Re: C Translator Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-04-01 02:16 +0100
                Re: C Translator Ike Naar <ike@iceland.freeshell.org> - 2019-04-01 06:42 +0000
                Re: C Translator David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-04-01 11:35 +0200
                Re: C Translator Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-04-01 16:54 +0100
                Re: C Translator Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-04-01 21:01 +0100
                Re: C Translator Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2019-04-01 13:41 -0700
                Re: C Translator Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-04-01 22:40 +0100
                Re: C Translator Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2019-04-01 16:25 -0700
                Re: C Translator Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2019-04-02 00:50 +0100
                Re: C Translator Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2019-04-01 17:45 -0700
                Re: C Translator Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2019-04-02 11:28 +0100
                Re: C Translator David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-04-02 13:18 +0200
                Re: C Translator Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2019-04-02 19:15 +0000
                Re: C Translator Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-04-02 21:14 +0100
                Re: C Translator Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2019-04-02 13:28 +0100
                Re: C Translator David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-04-02 10:49 +0200
                Re: C Translator Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-04-02 01:58 +0100
                Re: C Translator Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2019-04-01 19:13 -0700
                Re: C Translator Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-04-02 11:13 +0100
                Re: C Translator David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-04-02 13:49 +0200
                Re: C Translator Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2019-04-02 05:15 -0700
                Re: C Translator Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-04-02 14:50 +0100
                Re: C Translator David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-04-02 16:06 +0200
                Re: C Translator David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-04-02 16:05 +0200
                Re: C Translator Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2019-04-02 00:11 +0100
                Re: C Translator David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-04-02 10:35 +0200
                Re: C Translator Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2019-04-02 00:06 +0100
                Re: C Translator Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2019-03-31 21:36 +0100
                Re: C Translator Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2019-03-31 16:32 +0100
              Re: C Translator Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-03-30 00:37 +0000
                Re: C Translator Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2019-03-30 01:00 +0000
                Re: C Translator fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2019-03-30 03:37 -0700
                Re: C Translator fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2019-03-30 06:15 -0700
        Re: C Translator James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2019-03-29 07:49 -0700

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