Re: C Translator

From	Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.c
Subject	Re: C Translator
Date	2019-04-02 11:28 +0100
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID	<87ef6k66qo.fsf@bsb.me.uk> (permalink)
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Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> writes:

> Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> writes:
>> Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> writes:
>>> Bart <bc@freeuk.com> writes:
>>>> On 01/04/2019 21:41, Keith Thompson wrote:
>>>>> Bart <bc@freeuk.com> writes:
>>>>>> I'll probably regret asking this, but how is that code relevant?
>>>>
>>>> Because DB seems to think that everyone follows coding guidelines. This 
>>>> is one example of many that doesn't. Not clear coding guidelines anyway.
>>>
>>> David Brown said no such thing.  Here's his statement to which you
>>> responded:
>>>
>>>     You think you are the only person that writes coding guidelines?
>>>     What planet do you live on?
>>>
>>> Learn to read.
>>
>> I think there has been a genuine misunderstanding on both sides.  David
>> Brown read "no one writes to precise guidelines" as "no one writes
>> precise guidelines".  Bart then misread David's remark as also being
>> about writing to guidelines rather than writing the guidelines
>> themselves.
>>
>> Reading with care on both sides would have helped, but it's easy to miss
>> a word like "to" both when it's there and when you think it must be
>> there.
>
> Sure, but even allowing for that, I don't see how David's statement
> could reasonably be interpreted to imply that he thinks *everyone*
> does anything.
>
> Not everyone writes coding guidelines, but some do.
>
> Not everyone writes *to* coding guidelines (i.e., writes code that
> conforms to some guidelines) but some do.
>
> Presenting a chunk of code that presumably was not written to conform
> to any particular guidelines does not refute anything that anyone
> actually said or implied.

Agreed.  I think made the same point in another post.  Bart often argues
by taking an extreme position and tries to justify it with inadequate
examples: no one does this, look, here's an example.

I was nit-picking a detail: telling one person to learning to read when
two parties had misread, and no amount of learning can prevent
occasional misreadings.  However, David Brown tell me he did not misread
the post so I am now baffled but both sides.  I should have stayed out
of it.

-- 
Ben.

Thread

C Translator Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-03-28 16:16 +0000
  Re: C Translator Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-03-29 00:01 +0000
    Re: C Translator Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2019-03-28 20:31 -0500
    Re: C Translator Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2019-03-28 19:02 -0700
      Re: C Translator Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-03-29 02:34 +0000
        Re: C Translator David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-03-29 10:58 +0100
          Re: C Translator Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-03-29 12:47 +0000
            Re: C Translator David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-03-29 14:57 +0100
              Re: C Translator Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-03-29 14:57 +0000
                Re: C Translator fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2019-03-29 15:08 -0700
                Re: C Translator fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2019-03-29 15:42 -0700
              Re: C Translator scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2019-03-29 15:16 +0000
                Re: C Translator Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-03-29 15:30 +0000
                Re: C Translator fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2019-03-29 14:47 -0700
        Re: C Translator Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2019-03-29 10:42 +0000
          Re: C Translator Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-03-29 11:57 +0000
            Re: C Translator Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-03-29 13:04 +0000
            Re: C Translator David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-03-29 14:58 +0100
              Re: C Translator Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-03-29 14:29 +0000
                Re: C Translator Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2019-03-29 20:06 +0000
            Re: C Translator Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2019-03-29 20:02 +0000
              Re: C Translator Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-03-29 21:10 +0000
                Re: C Translator nobody@example.org (Scott) - 2019-03-30 04:52 +0000
                Re: C Translator Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-03-30 11:03 +0000
                Re: C Translator nobody@example.org (Scott) - 2019-03-30 16:17 +0000
                Re: C Translator Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-03-30 18:36 +0000
                Re: C Translator Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2019-03-30 20:32 +0000
                Re: C Translator Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-03-30 22:44 +0000
                Re: C Translator Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2019-03-31 03:23 +0100
                Re: C Translator Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-03-31 12:39 +0100
                Re: C Translator Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2019-03-31 15:07 +0100
                Re: C Translator Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-03-31 16:21 +0100
                Re: C Translator David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-03-31 21:19 +0200
                Re: C Translator Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-03-31 20:58 +0100
                Re: C Translator Ike Naar <ike@iceland.freeshell.org> - 2019-03-31 20:33 +0000
                Re: C Translator Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-03-31 22:06 +0100
                Re: C Translator Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2019-03-31 22:37 +0100
                Re: C Translator Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-03-31 23:33 +0100
                Re: C Translator Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2019-04-01 02:35 +0100
                Re: C Translator David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-04-01 11:33 +0200
                Re: C Translator David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-03-31 23:54 +0200
                Re: C Translator Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-04-01 02:16 +0100
                Re: C Translator Ike Naar <ike@iceland.freeshell.org> - 2019-04-01 06:42 +0000
                Re: C Translator David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-04-01 11:35 +0200
                Re: C Translator Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-04-01 16:54 +0100
                Re: C Translator Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-04-01 21:01 +0100
                Re: C Translator Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2019-04-01 13:41 -0700
                Re: C Translator Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-04-01 22:40 +0100
                Re: C Translator Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2019-04-01 16:25 -0700
                Re: C Translator Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2019-04-02 00:50 +0100
                Re: C Translator Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2019-04-01 17:45 -0700
                Re: C Translator Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2019-04-02 11:28 +0100
                Re: C Translator David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-04-02 13:18 +0200
                Re: C Translator Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2019-04-02 19:15 +0000
                Re: C Translator Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-04-02 21:14 +0100
                Re: C Translator Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2019-04-02 13:28 +0100
                Re: C Translator David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-04-02 10:49 +0200
                Re: C Translator Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-04-02 01:58 +0100
                Re: C Translator Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2019-04-01 19:13 -0700
                Re: C Translator Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-04-02 11:13 +0100
                Re: C Translator David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-04-02 13:49 +0200
                Re: C Translator Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2019-04-02 05:15 -0700
                Re: C Translator Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-04-02 14:50 +0100
                Re: C Translator David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-04-02 16:06 +0200
                Re: C Translator David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-04-02 16:05 +0200
                Re: C Translator Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2019-04-02 00:11 +0100
                Re: C Translator David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-04-02 10:35 +0200
                Re: C Translator Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2019-04-02 00:06 +0100
                Re: C Translator Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2019-03-31 21:36 +0100
                Re: C Translator Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2019-03-31 16:32 +0100
              Re: C Translator Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-03-30 00:37 +0000
                Re: C Translator Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2019-03-30 01:00 +0000
                Re: C Translator fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2019-03-30 03:37 -0700
                Re: C Translator fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2019-03-30 06:15 -0700
        Re: C Translator James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2019-03-29 07:49 -0700

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