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Re: Matter doesn’t suck

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics
Subject Re: Matter doesn’t suck
Date 2019-02-17 19:42 +0000
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<poraty6@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, February 14, 2019 at 5:12:53 AM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> <poraty6@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Thursday, February 14, 2019 at 12:46:44 AM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> <poraty6@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 8:14:37 AM UTC+2, Michael Moroney wrote:
>>>>>> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Odd
>>>>>>> "Nothing magic about them. What do you find about their properties and
>>>>>>> traits that seems impossible to you? "
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Describing fields an such as "magic" isn't productive. Fields are simply
>>>>>> some effect that has a value that exists everywhere over its domain, or
>>>>>> all of spacetime. The easiest to understand is a weather map, which has a
>>>>>> temperature and wind speed for everywhere in the map. The temperature
>>>>>> field is scalar, there is just a number (temperature) for every point.
>>>>>> The wind speed is a vector field, there is a speed and direction for
>>>>>> every point.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> A 'field' is a MEASUREMENT of certain values or effects in one art of Space
>>>>> ======================> >>> what are the   PHYSICAL    dimensions of a field
>>>> 
>>>> Depends on the field. 
>>>> The temperature field has units Kelvin. 
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> say
>>>>> electric 
>>>>> magnetic 
>>>>> etc 
>>>>> ===> >>> 
>>>>> TIA
>>>>> y.Porat
>>>>> ====================> >>> 
>>>>> .
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> No, the field is the effect itself, over some domain (or everywhere).
>>>>>> (Do you consider the reading on a voltmeter to be voltage? Do you consider
>>>>>> reading a thermometer to be temperature?)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It is not a thing in and of itself.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It is a property over some region of space/spacetime.
>>>>>> Force on charges from other charges/radiation.
>>>>>> Force on mass from other masses (Newtonian view).
>>>>>> Temperature on a weather map.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> You do not seem to be able to process that.
>>>>>>> I have no idea why not.
>>>>>>> It has been explained to you time and time again
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Making up your own definitions is counterproductive, unless your goal
>>>>>> is creation of word salad. You need to learn how science uses the
>>>>>> words it does, rather than inventing your own definitions for terms
>>>>>> you don't understand or believe in.
>>>>> ==> >>> WHO   DOES NOT   UNDERSTAND 
>>>>> (:-)
>>>>> ============> >>> y.p
>>>>> ==========> >>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> educated  crock   
>>> temperature is a field ??
>> 
>> Theres a temperature field, yes. Of course. You dont know what a field
>> is? What do you think a field is?
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> =================> > Y.P
>>> ==========> > 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> ===========================no mater what field
> all of them has mass!!   or mass composed 

I disagree. An electromagnetic field has no mass. 

> 
> ==================================no mass'   no real physics !!
> ==================================
> TIA
> Y.P
> ===============
> 
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-07 21:11 -0800
  Re: Matter doesn’t suck Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2019-02-08 16:54 +1100
    Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-07 22:08 -0800
      Re: Matter doesn’t suck Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2019-02-08 17:14 +1100
        Re: Matter doesn’t suck poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-02-07 22:35 -0800
        Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-08 08:07 -0800
        Re: Matter doesn’t suck James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2019-02-08 10:07 -0800
        Re: Matter doesn’t suck benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-02-08 13:18 -0500
    Re: Matter doesn’t suck James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2019-02-08 10:06 -0800
      Re: Matter doesn’t suck pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-02-08 12:30 -0800
  Re: Matter doesn’t suck James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2019-02-08 09:42 -0800
    Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-08 11:16 -0800
      Re: Matter doesn’t suck pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-02-08 12:32 -0800
        Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-08 13:23 -0800
          Re: Matter doesn’t suck mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2019-02-08 16:21 -0800
        Re: Matter doesn’t suck James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2019-02-08 15:50 -0800
      Re: Matter doesn’t suck poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-02-09 22:45 -0800
  Re: Matter doesn’t suck moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-02-08 19:29 +0000
    Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-08 11:35 -0800
      Re: Re: Matter doesn’t suck moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-02-08 20:32 +0000
    Re: Matter doesn’t suck poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-02-09 22:53 -0800
      Re: Matter doesn’t suck poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-02-10 01:41 -0800
  Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-09 16:17 +0000
    Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-09 19:50 -0800
      Re: Matter doesn’t suck pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-02-09 19:56 -0800
        Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-10 03:46 -0800
        Re: Matter doesn’t suck James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2019-02-10 09:45 -0800
          Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-10 17:51 +0000
            Re: Matter doesn’t suck James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2019-02-10 13:35 -0800
          Re: Matter doesn’t suck pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-02-10 15:10 -0800
      Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-10 15:17 +0000
        Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-10 07:45 -0800
          Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-10 16:06 +0000
            Re: Matter doesn’t suck poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-02-10 15:40 -0800
              Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-11 00:59 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-10 17:30 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-11 01:47 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-10 18:44 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-11 12:54 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-02-11 00:01 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-02-11 08:59 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-11 17:24 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-11 20:39 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 12:13 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-02-11 23:45 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 13:20 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-02-12 08:42 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 19:23 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 12:30 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Serg Io <invvalid@invalid.com> - 2019-02-12 14:59 -0600
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2019-02-12 13:07 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 13:23 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2019-02-12 13:35 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 14:41 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 23:12 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 15:41 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 16:19 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 03:04 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 20:01 -0800
                Re: Re: Matter doesn’t suck moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-02-13 06:14 +0000
                Re: Re: Matter doesn’t suck poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-02-13 08:49 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 22:46 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-02-13 17:18 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-14 03:12 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-14 02:52 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-14 19:02 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-14 12:12 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-14 22:24 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-02-17 11:40 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-17 19:42 +0000
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                Re: Matter doesn’t suck poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-02-17 17:48 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-18 02:15 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-02-18 21:13 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-19 13:52 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-02-19 10:08 -0500
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-19 15:15 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-02-19 16:07 -0500
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2019-02-19 13:54 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2019-02-13 17:26 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 11:22 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 03:04 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 20:11 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2019-02-12 20:57 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 11:22 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 04:30 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 05:16 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 14:41 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 14:30 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 14:41 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 14:41 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 14:41 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 14:41 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 14:44 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 07:09 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 15:58 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 16:06 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 09:14 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 22:46 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 15:03 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 23:15 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 15:23 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-14 14:04 +0000
                Re: Re: Matter doesn’t suck moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-02-14 22:46 +0000
                Re: Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-14 15:23 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-14 23:52 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-15 05:39 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-02-13 15:34 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-02-13 08:54 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 23:11 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-02-12 21:37 -0800
          Re: Matter doesn’t suck Serg Io <invvalid@invalid.com> - 2019-02-10 15:39 -0600
  Re: Matter doesn’t suck Serg Io <invvalid@invalid.com> - 2019-02-09 10:51 -0600
    Re: Matter doesn’t suck mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2019-02-09 12:49 -0800
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        Re: Matter doesn’t suck mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2019-02-10 18:32 -0800
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