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| From | % <persent@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics |
| Subject | Re: Matter doesn’t suck |
| Date | 2019-02-17 13:03 -0700 |
| Organization | Altopia Corp. - Usenet Access - www.altopia.com |
| Message-ID | <c09473.b0m.19.7@news.alt.net> (permalink) |
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On 2019-02-17 12:42 p.m., Odd Bodkin wrote: > <poraty6@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Thursday, February 14, 2019 at 5:12:53 AM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote: >>> <poraty6@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> On Thursday, February 14, 2019 at 12:46:44 AM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote: >>>>> <poraty6@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 8:14:37 AM UTC+2, Michael Moroney wrote: >>>>>>> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Odd >>>>>>>> "Nothing magic about them. What do you find about their properties and >>>>>>>> traits that seems impossible to you? " >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Describing fields an such as "magic" isn't productive. Fields are simply >>>>>>> some effect that has a value that exists everywhere over its domain, or >>>>>>> all of spacetime. The easiest to understand is a weather map, which has a >>>>>>> temperature and wind speed for everywhere in the map. The temperature >>>>>>> field is scalar, there is just a number (temperature) for every point. >>>>>>> The wind speed is a vector field, there is a speed and direction for >>>>>>> every point. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A 'field' is a MEASUREMENT of certain values or effects in one art of Space >>>>>> ======================> >>> what are the PHYSICAL dimensions of a field >>>>> >>>>> Depends on the field. >>>>> The temperature field has units Kelvin. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> say >>>>>> electric >>>>>> magnetic >>>>>> etc >>>>>> ===> >>> >>>>>> TIA >>>>>> y.Porat >>>>>> ====================> >>> >>>>>> . >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No, the field is the effect itself, over some domain (or everywhere). >>>>>>> (Do you consider the reading on a voltmeter to be voltage? Do you consider >>>>>>> reading a thermometer to be temperature?) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It is not a thing in and of itself. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It is a property over some region of space/spacetime. >>>>>>> Force on charges from other charges/radiation. >>>>>>> Force on mass from other masses (Newtonian view). >>>>>>> Temperature on a weather map. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You do not seem to be able to process that. >>>>>>>> I have no idea why not. >>>>>>>> It has been explained to you time and time again >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Making up your own definitions is counterproductive, unless your goal >>>>>>> is creation of word salad. You need to learn how science uses the >>>>>>> words it does, rather than inventing your own definitions for terms >>>>>>> you don't understand or believe in. >>>>>> ==> >>> WHO DOES NOT UNDERSTAND >>>>>> (:-) >>>>>> ============> >>> y.p >>>>>> ==========> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> educated crock >>>> temperature is a field ?? >>> >>> Theres a temperature field, yes. Of course. You dont know what a field >>> is? What do you think a field is? >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> =================> > Y.P >>>> ==========> > >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables >> ===========================no mater what field >> all of them has mass!! or mass composed > > I disagree. An electromagnetic field has no mass. > >> >> ==================================no mass' no real physics !! >> ================================== >> TIA >> Y.P >> =============== >> >> > > > when someone grabs my balls they've been field
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Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-07 21:11 -0800
Re: Matter doesn’t suck Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2019-02-08 16:54 +1100
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Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-09 16:17 +0000
Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-09 19:50 -0800
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Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-10 16:06 +0000
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Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-10 18:44 -0800
Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-11 12:54 +0000
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Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-11 17:24 +0000
Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-11 20:39 -0800
Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 12:13 +0000
Re: Matter doesn’t suck poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-02-11 23:45 -0800
Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 13:20 +0000
Re: Matter doesn’t suck poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-02-12 08:42 -0800
Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 19:23 +0000
Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 12:30 -0800
Re: Matter doesn’t suck Serg Io <invvalid@invalid.com> - 2019-02-12 14:59 -0600
Re: Matter doesn’t suck mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2019-02-12 13:07 -0800
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Re: Matter doesn’t suck mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2019-02-12 13:35 -0800
Re: Matter doesn’t suck Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 14:41 -0800
Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 23:12 +0000
Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 15:41 -0800
Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 16:19 -0800
Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 03:04 +0000
Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 20:01 -0800
Re: Re: Matter doesn’t suck moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-02-13 06:14 +0000
Re: Re: Matter doesn’t suck poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-02-13 08:49 -0800
Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 22:46 +0000
Re: Matter doesn’t suck poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-02-13 17:18 -0800
Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-14 03:12 +0000
Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-14 02:52 -0800
Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-14 19:02 +0000
Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-14 12:12 -0800
Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-14 22:24 +0000
Re: Matter doesn’t suck poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-02-17 11:40 -0800
Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-17 19:42 +0000
Re: Matter doesn’t suck % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-02-17 13:03 -0700
Re: Matter doesn’t suck poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-02-17 17:48 -0800
Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-18 02:15 +0000
Re: Matter doesn’t suck poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-02-18 21:13 -0800
Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-19 13:52 +0000
Re: Matter doesn’t suck benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-02-19 10:08 -0500
Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-19 15:15 +0000
Re: Matter doesn’t suck benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-02-19 16:07 -0500
Re: Matter doesn’t suck Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2019-02-19 13:54 -0800
Re: Matter doesn’t suck mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2019-02-13 17:26 -0800
Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 11:22 +0000
Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 03:04 +0000
Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 20:11 -0800
Re: Matter doesn’t suck mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2019-02-12 20:57 -0800
Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 11:22 +0000
Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 04:30 -0800
Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 05:16 -0800
Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 14:41 +0000
Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 14:30 +0000
Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 14:41 +0000
Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 14:41 +0000
Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 14:41 +0000
Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 14:41 +0000
Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 14:44 +0000
Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 07:09 -0800
Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 15:58 +0000
Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 16:06 +0000
Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 09:14 -0800
Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 22:46 +0000
Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 15:03 -0800
Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 23:15 +0000
Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 15:23 -0800
Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-14 14:04 +0000
Re: Re: Matter doesn’t suck moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-02-14 22:46 +0000
Re: Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-14 15:23 -0800
Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-14 23:52 +0000
Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-15 05:39 -0800
Re: Matter doesn’t suck moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-02-13 15:34 +0000
Re: Matter doesn’t suck poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-02-13 08:54 -0800
Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 23:11 +0000
Re: Matter doesn’t suck poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-02-12 21:37 -0800
Re: Matter doesn’t suck Serg Io <invvalid@invalid.com> - 2019-02-10 15:39 -0600
Re: Matter doesn’t suck Serg Io <invvalid@invalid.com> - 2019-02-09 10:51 -0600
Re: Matter doesn’t suck mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2019-02-09 12:49 -0800
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Re: Matter doesn’t suck mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2019-02-10 18:32 -0800
Re: Matter doesn’t suck Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2019-02-11 23:49 -0800
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