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Re: Re: Matter doesn’t suck

From moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Newsgroups sci.physics
Subject Re: Re: Matter doesn’t suck
Date 2019-02-14 22:46 +0000
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john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>As far as your fields are everything bullshit: a calm lake does not have a 
>boatwake lurking in it waiting for the boat- the boat is REAL STUFF making
>a wake in the lake. And the lake/field  is also REAL STUFF i.e. moving water,
>just like all fields are smaller REAL STUFF in motion.

No, John. The surface of the lake is the field. The height of the waves
is the value of the field at that point. (A field has a value of some
sort everywhere within it. The value can be a scalar, vector or tensor.
Spinors, too).  If the lake is calm, the value of the field is zero
everywhere. Like empty space with no charges or electromagnetic radiation
will have its electromagnetic field zero.  Along comes a boat and it 
creates a disturbance in the field, called a wake. And, interestingly,
the disturbance propagates, just like electromagnetic radiation.

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Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-07 21:11 -0800
  Re: Matter doesn’t suck Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2019-02-08 16:54 +1100
    Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-07 22:08 -0800
      Re: Matter doesn’t suck Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2019-02-08 17:14 +1100
        Re: Matter doesn’t suck poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-02-07 22:35 -0800
        Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-08 08:07 -0800
        Re: Matter doesn’t suck James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2019-02-08 10:07 -0800
        Re: Matter doesn’t suck benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-02-08 13:18 -0500
    Re: Matter doesn’t suck James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2019-02-08 10:06 -0800
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  Re: Matter doesn’t suck James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2019-02-08 09:42 -0800
    Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-08 11:16 -0800
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        Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-08 13:23 -0800
          Re: Matter doesn’t suck mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2019-02-08 16:21 -0800
        Re: Matter doesn’t suck James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2019-02-08 15:50 -0800
      Re: Matter doesn’t suck poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-02-09 22:45 -0800
  Re: Matter doesn’t suck moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-02-08 19:29 +0000
    Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-08 11:35 -0800
      Re: Re: Matter doesn’t suck moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-02-08 20:32 +0000
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  Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-09 16:17 +0000
    Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-09 19:50 -0800
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        Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-10 03:46 -0800
        Re: Matter doesn’t suck James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2019-02-10 09:45 -0800
          Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-10 17:51 +0000
            Re: Matter doesn’t suck James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2019-02-10 13:35 -0800
          Re: Matter doesn’t suck pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-02-10 15:10 -0800
      Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-10 15:17 +0000
        Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-10 07:45 -0800
          Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-10 16:06 +0000
            Re: Matter doesn’t suck poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-02-10 15:40 -0800
              Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-11 00:59 +0000
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                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-11 01:47 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-10 18:44 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-11 12:54 +0000
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                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-11 17:24 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-11 20:39 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 12:13 +0000
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                Re: Matter doesn’t suck poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-02-12 08:42 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 19:23 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 12:30 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Serg Io <invvalid@invalid.com> - 2019-02-12 14:59 -0600
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2019-02-12 13:07 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 13:23 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2019-02-12 13:35 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 14:41 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 23:12 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 15:41 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 16:19 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 03:04 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 20:01 -0800
                Re: Re: Matter doesn’t suck moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-02-13 06:14 +0000
                Re: Re: Matter doesn’t suck poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-02-13 08:49 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 22:46 +0000
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                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-14 02:52 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-14 19:02 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-14 12:12 -0800
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                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 11:22 +0000
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                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 07:09 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 15:58 +0000
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                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 23:15 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 15:23 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-14 14:04 +0000
                Re: Re: Matter doesn’t suck moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-02-14 22:46 +0000
                Re: Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-14 15:23 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-14 23:52 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-15 05:39 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-02-13 15:34 +0000
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                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 23:11 +0000
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          Re: Matter doesn’t suck Serg Io <invvalid@invalid.com> - 2019-02-10 15:39 -0600
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