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Re: Re: Matter doesn’t suck

From moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Newsgroups sci.physics
Subject Re: Re: Matter doesn’t suck
Date 2019-02-13 06:14 +0000
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john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Odd
>"Nothing magic about them. What do you find about their properties and
>traits that seems impossible to you? "

Describing fields an such as "magic" isn't productive. Fields are simply
some effect that has a value that exists everywhere over its domain, or
all of spacetime. The easiest to understand is a weather map, which has a
temperature and wind speed for everywhere in the map. The temperature
field is scalar, there is just a number (temperature) for every point.
The wind speed is a vector field, there is a speed and direction for
every point.

>A 'field' is a MEASUREMENT of certain values or effects in one art of Space.

No, the field is the effect itself, over some domain (or everywhere).
(Do you consider the reading on a voltmeter to be voltage? Do you consider
reading a thermometer to be temperature?)

>It is not a thing in and of itself.

It is a property over some region of space/spacetime.
Force on charges from other charges/radiation.
Force on mass from other masses (Newtonian view).
Temperature on a weather map.

>You do not seem to be able to process that.
>I have no idea why not.
>It has been explained to you time and time again

Making up your own definitions is counterproductive, unless your goal
is creation of word salad. You need to learn how science uses the
words it does, rather than inventing your own definitions for terms
you don't understand or believe in.

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Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-07 21:11 -0800
  Re: Matter doesn’t suck Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2019-02-08 16:54 +1100
    Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-07 22:08 -0800
      Re: Matter doesn’t suck Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2019-02-08 17:14 +1100
        Re: Matter doesn’t suck poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-02-07 22:35 -0800
        Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-08 08:07 -0800
        Re: Matter doesn’t suck James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2019-02-08 10:07 -0800
        Re: Matter doesn’t suck benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-02-08 13:18 -0500
    Re: Matter doesn’t suck James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2019-02-08 10:06 -0800
      Re: Matter doesn’t suck pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-02-08 12:30 -0800
  Re: Matter doesn’t suck James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2019-02-08 09:42 -0800
    Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-08 11:16 -0800
      Re: Matter doesn’t suck pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-02-08 12:32 -0800
        Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-08 13:23 -0800
          Re: Matter doesn’t suck mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2019-02-08 16:21 -0800
        Re: Matter doesn’t suck James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2019-02-08 15:50 -0800
      Re: Matter doesn’t suck poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-02-09 22:45 -0800
  Re: Matter doesn’t suck moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-02-08 19:29 +0000
    Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-08 11:35 -0800
      Re: Re: Matter doesn’t suck moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-02-08 20:32 +0000
    Re: Matter doesn’t suck poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-02-09 22:53 -0800
      Re: Matter doesn’t suck poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-02-10 01:41 -0800
  Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-09 16:17 +0000
    Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-09 19:50 -0800
      Re: Matter doesn’t suck pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-02-09 19:56 -0800
        Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-10 03:46 -0800
        Re: Matter doesn’t suck James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2019-02-10 09:45 -0800
          Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-10 17:51 +0000
            Re: Matter doesn’t suck James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2019-02-10 13:35 -0800
          Re: Matter doesn’t suck pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-02-10 15:10 -0800
      Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-10 15:17 +0000
        Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-10 07:45 -0800
          Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-10 16:06 +0000
            Re: Matter doesn’t suck poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-02-10 15:40 -0800
              Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-11 00:59 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-10 17:30 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-11 01:47 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-10 18:44 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-11 12:54 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-02-11 00:01 -0800
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                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-11 17:24 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-11 20:39 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 12:13 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-02-11 23:45 -0800
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                Re: Matter doesn’t suck poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-02-12 08:42 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 19:23 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 12:30 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Serg Io <invvalid@invalid.com> - 2019-02-12 14:59 -0600
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2019-02-12 13:07 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 13:23 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2019-02-12 13:35 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 14:41 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 23:12 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 15:41 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 16:19 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 03:04 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 20:01 -0800
                Re: Re: Matter doesn’t suck moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-02-13 06:14 +0000
                Re: Re: Matter doesn’t suck poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-02-13 08:49 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 22:46 +0000
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                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-14 02:52 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-14 19:02 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-14 12:12 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-14 22:24 +0000
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                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 11:22 +0000
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                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 14:41 +0000
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                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 07:09 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 15:58 +0000
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                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 22:46 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 15:03 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 23:15 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 15:23 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-14 14:04 +0000
                Re: Re: Matter doesn’t suck moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-02-14 22:46 +0000
                Re: Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-14 15:23 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-14 23:52 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-15 05:39 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-02-13 15:34 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-02-13 08:54 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 23:11 +0000
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          Re: Matter doesn’t suck Serg Io <invvalid@invalid.com> - 2019-02-10 15:39 -0600
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    Re: Matter doesn’t suck mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2019-02-09 12:49 -0800
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