Re: Matter doesn’t suck

From	Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics
Subject	Re: Matter doesn’t suck
Date	2019-02-10 15:17 +0000
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john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> Odd
> “Perhaps you could explain the difference in your mind between opposite 
> charges pulling and matter sucking? 
> ”
> Certainly.
> Gravity is long range. You didn’t know that, did you?
> Charge attraction is short range. Also out of your grasp.

Let’s start with this mistake before we go to the others. 
The range dependence of gravity is 1/r^2: F=GMm/r^2.
The range dependence of charge attraction is 1/r^2: F=kQq/r^2.

They have IDENTICAL distance dependence. This has been known for 300 years.

Now I know this boggles your mind because you don’t see everyday examples
of galaxies held together with charge attraction. This has nothing to do
with the range dependence but rather on the bivalent signs of electric
charge and univalent sign of mass. Aggregate bodies can have net zero
charge but never zero mass. 

> 
> Anyway, I know this is above your head, but the two things use different
> mechanisms; gravity uses neutrino-like ‘ultra mundane particles’, which travel straight.
> Charge/magnetism uses charged radiations that curve around in circles.

That’s fascinating, John. The carrier of electromagnetism is
electromagnetic radiation, sometimes known as light, which is neither
charged nor travels in circles. Yet you say the carrier of
electric/magnetic attraction is charged and travels in circles. So put a
couple of magnets near each other until you get an attraction. What charged
radiations that travel in circles are you imagining going between them?
Hmmm?

> 
> Got it? Of course not. I’m wasting my time with you.

I’d say you’re wasting your time in general because you don’t know enough
about basic physics to discuss it intelligently. 

> 

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-07 21:11 -0800
  Re: Matter doesn’t suck Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2019-02-08 16:54 +1100
    Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-07 22:08 -0800
      Re: Matter doesn’t suck Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2019-02-08 17:14 +1100
        Re: Matter doesn’t suck poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-02-07 22:35 -0800
        Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-08 08:07 -0800
        Re: Matter doesn’t suck James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2019-02-08 10:07 -0800
        Re: Matter doesn’t suck benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-02-08 13:18 -0500
    Re: Matter doesn’t suck James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2019-02-08 10:06 -0800
      Re: Matter doesn’t suck pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-02-08 12:30 -0800
  Re: Matter doesn’t suck James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2019-02-08 09:42 -0800
    Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-08 11:16 -0800
      Re: Matter doesn’t suck pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-02-08 12:32 -0800
        Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-08 13:23 -0800
          Re: Matter doesn’t suck mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2019-02-08 16:21 -0800
        Re: Matter doesn’t suck James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2019-02-08 15:50 -0800
      Re: Matter doesn’t suck poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-02-09 22:45 -0800
  Re: Matter doesn’t suck moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-02-08 19:29 +0000
    Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-08 11:35 -0800
      Re: Re: Matter doesn’t suck moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-02-08 20:32 +0000
    Re: Matter doesn’t suck poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-02-09 22:53 -0800
      Re: Matter doesn’t suck poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-02-10 01:41 -0800
  Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-09 16:17 +0000
    Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-09 19:50 -0800
      Re: Matter doesn’t suck pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-02-09 19:56 -0800
        Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-10 03:46 -0800
        Re: Matter doesn’t suck James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2019-02-10 09:45 -0800
          Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-10 17:51 +0000
            Re: Matter doesn’t suck James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2019-02-10 13:35 -0800
          Re: Matter doesn’t suck pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-02-10 15:10 -0800
      Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-10 15:17 +0000
        Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-10 07:45 -0800
          Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-10 16:06 +0000
            Re: Matter doesn’t suck poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-02-10 15:40 -0800
              Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-11 00:59 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-10 17:30 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-11 01:47 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-10 18:44 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-11 12:54 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-02-11 00:01 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-02-11 08:59 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-11 17:24 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-11 20:39 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 12:13 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-02-11 23:45 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 13:20 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-02-12 08:42 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 19:23 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 12:30 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Serg Io <invvalid@invalid.com> - 2019-02-12 14:59 -0600
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2019-02-12 13:07 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 13:23 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2019-02-12 13:35 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 14:41 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 23:12 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 15:41 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 16:19 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 03:04 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 20:01 -0800
                Re: Re: Matter doesn’t suck moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-02-13 06:14 +0000
                Re: Re: Matter doesn’t suck poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-02-13 08:49 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 22:46 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-02-13 17:18 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-14 03:12 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-14 02:52 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-14 19:02 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-14 12:12 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-14 22:24 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-02-17 11:40 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-17 19:42 +0000
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                Re: Matter doesn’t suck poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-02-17 17:48 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-18 02:15 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-02-18 21:13 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-19 13:52 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-02-19 10:08 -0500
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-19 15:15 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-02-19 16:07 -0500
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2019-02-19 13:54 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2019-02-13 17:26 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 11:22 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 03:04 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 20:11 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2019-02-12 20:57 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 11:22 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 04:30 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 05:16 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 14:41 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 14:30 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 14:41 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 14:41 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 14:41 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 14:41 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 14:44 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 07:09 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 15:58 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 16:06 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 09:14 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 22:46 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 15:03 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 23:15 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 15:23 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-14 14:04 +0000
                Re: Re: Matter doesn’t suck moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-02-14 22:46 +0000
                Re: Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-14 15:23 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-14 23:52 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-15 05:39 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-02-13 15:34 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-02-13 08:54 -0800
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 23:11 +0000
                Re: Matter doesn’t suck poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-02-12 21:37 -0800
          Re: Matter doesn’t suck Serg Io <invvalid@invalid.com> - 2019-02-10 15:39 -0600
  Re: Matter doesn’t suck Serg Io <invvalid@invalid.com> - 2019-02-09 10:51 -0600
    Re: Matter doesn’t suck mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2019-02-09 12:49 -0800
      Re: Matter doesn’t suck Serg Io <invvalid@invalid.com> - 2019-02-10 15:20 -0600
        Re: Matter doesn’t suck mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2019-02-10 18:32 -0800
  Re: Matter doesn’t suck Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2019-02-11 23:49 -0800

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