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Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy

From	William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca>
Newsgroups	misc.phone.mobile.iphone, alt.os.linux, alt.privacy.anon-server, comp.mobile.android
Subject	Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy
Date	2019-02-08 21:22 +0000
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID	<q3krvb$k04$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)
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On 2019-02-08, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
> William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:
>> On 2019-02-07, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> J.O. Aho <user@example.net> wrote:
>>>> On 2/6/19 5:24 PM, William Unruh wrote:
>>>>> On 2019-02-06, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <q3dlkf$e4a$1@news.neodome.i2p>, <anon@anon.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Apparently, we will have it in April 2019. Anyone planning to buy one?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> https://puri.sm/products/librem-5/
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> dead on arrival. no carrier support, no apps and numerous false claims.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Carrier support isn't required. Just pop a SIM in and you're good to go.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Of course it is. The phone has to operate on the frequency/type band
>>>>> that the carrier operates on.
>>>> 
>>>> In most countries, including US, there is an standard for the whole 
>>>> nation (the only exception I can think of is China), so there is little 
>>>> need for traditional carrier support.
>>>> Sure if you can get carriers to promote the phone, that would help.
>>> 
>>> Yep. In the uk i can buy any retail phone and it'll work on any network.
>>> There are some exceptions with 2G phones or grey imports. 
>> 
>> a) that is because in the UK., they want to sell phones to everyone, and
>> so make sure they support UK phones. Then you go to Spain or Maroco, or
>> USA and find your phone is as useful as brick. 
>
> You know, the concept of travel has not escaped the notice of phone
> manufacturers. I have been to all those countries with no ill effects. 
>
That is because you bought a phone which covers the appropriate bands,
or maybe you just used 2G (which is being phased out all over the
world). Apple has almost always had support on almost all te 3G and 4G
bands. Other phones not necessarily. To bring us back to the topic, this 
phone tells you nothing about which bands it covers. Ie, you could well
have trouble if you use it outside of its country.

And I have been to many countries with my smart phone and had trouble. 
For example my Hauwei Y6 which I bought in the UK cannot work on ATT in
the US at all (ATT does not have 2G and my phone's bands do not
correspond to ATT's bands. And there are about 3 or 4 versions of the Y6
each of which covers different bands (My wife's, bought in Canada does
work on ATT in the US, but not very well)

In Japan the problem is that you cannot buy a Sim there except for data.
To get a "talking sim" you need a Japanese contract, 2 years minimum.

Thread

Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy <anon@anon.com> - 2019-02-06 03:52 +0000
  Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-02-05 23:25 -0500
    Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2019-02-06 08:45 +0000
      Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-02-06 10:43 -0500
        Re: PureOS and Librem laptops <anon@anon.com> - 2019-02-07 22:39 +0000
          Re: PureOS and Librem laptops nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-02-07 22:47 -0500
      Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-02-06 16:24 +0000
        Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2019-02-07 21:43 +0100
          Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2019-02-07 22:56 +0000
            Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-02-07 23:42 +0000
              Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2019-02-08 07:52 +0000
                Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2019-02-08 02:59 -0600
                Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2019-02-08 13:13 +0100
                Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2019-02-08 18:53 +0000
                Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-02-08 21:27 +0000
                Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2019-02-09 16:23 +0000
                Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-02-09 17:28 +0000
                Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy Anonymous <anonymous@hoi-polloi.org> - 2019-02-09 19:01 +0100
                Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2019-02-09 18:25 +0000
                Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-02-09 18:43 +0000
                Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2019-02-09 19:53 +0000
                Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2019-02-10 08:38 -0800
                Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-02-08 21:22 +0000
                Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2019-02-09 15:03 +0000
                Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-02-09 17:18 +0000
                Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2019-02-09 17:40 +0000
                Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-02-09 18:13 +0000
                Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2019-02-10 08:39 -0800
                Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2019-02-11 22:51 +0000
                Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2019-02-09 17:24 +0000
                Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-02-09 17:38 +0000
                Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2019-02-09 17:53 +0000
                Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-02-09 18:09 +0000
                Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2019-02-09 20:12 +0000
                Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2019-02-09 23:34 +0100
                Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2019-02-10 00:55 +0100
                Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2019-02-09 18:57 +0100
          Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-02-07 23:40 +0000
            Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2019-02-08 06:51 +0100
        Re: PureOS and Librem laptops <anon@anon.com> - 2019-02-07 22:29 +0000
          Re: PureOS and Librem laptops William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-02-07 23:46 +0000
          Re: PureOS and Librem laptops nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-02-07 22:47 -0500
  Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-02-06 04:39 +0000
    PureOS and Librem laptops <anon@anon.com> - 2019-02-06 06:23 +0000
      Re: PureOS and Librem laptops "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-02-06 07:56 -0600
        Re: PureOS and Librem laptops <anon@anon.com> - 2019-02-07 22:25 +0000
        Re: PureOS and Librem laptops Mitch <m.mac@mixnym.net> - 2019-02-08 14:53 +0800
          Re: PureOS and Librem laptops "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-02-08 08:15 -0600
            Re: PureOS and Librem laptops John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2019-02-08 11:03 -0800
            Re: PureOS and Librem laptops Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2019-02-16 13:16 +0100
              Re: PureOS and Librem laptops Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2019-02-16 12:34 -0500
                Re: PureOS and Librem laptops John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2019-02-16 12:32 -0800
  Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy befr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich) - 2019-02-06 12:05 +0100

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