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Re: use of the plus sign

From Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.mobile.android
Subject Re: use of the plus sign
Date 2019-02-01 21:09 +0000
Organization NOYB
Message-ID <q32g35.5d0.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> (permalink)
References (2 earlier) <x9-dnbJcIN_JvsnBnZ2dnUU78WXNnZ2d@brightview.co.uk> <72662561-2c3c-dc81-5b61-4622b13b7eff@telia.com> <_cednSq1a4AIrsnBnZ2dnUU78TfNnZ2d@brightview.co.uk> <q31s3j.cg8.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> <waidnV8slpQC58nBnZ2dnUU78WnNnZ2d@brightview.co.uk>

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NY <me@privacy.net> wrote:
> "Frank Slootweg" <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote in message 
> news:q31s3j.cg8.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net...
> > NY <me@privacy.net> wrote:
> >> "Lars Enderin" <lars.enderin@telia.com> wrote in message
> >> news:72662561-2c3c-dc81-5b61-4622b13b7eff@telia.com...
> >> > 2019-02-01 11:45 skrev  NY:
> >> >> I wonder if there are any other countries which start all their 
> >> >> national
> >> >> area codes with a digit which *must* be dialled for calls within that
> >> >> country and which *must not* be dialled for calls from outside that
> >> >> country.
> >> >
> >> > Swedish area codes start with a zero inside Sweden.
> >>
> >> What advice is given to Swedish people about quoting phone numbers so 
> >> they
> >> can be dialled both from within and outside Sweden? Do they put the 0 in
> >> brackets or do they list two formats of the number? I'm interested 
> >> whether
> >> they solve the problem in the same way as the UK does.
> >
> >  Same problem and same solution (0 in brackets) in The Netherlands.
> 
> What intrigues me is that several countries (UK, Sweden, Netherlands, 
> Israel) have the same issue of a leading digit which is dialled within the 
> country but not from abroad, and yet none have done the obvious thing of 
> reprogramming their exchanges so that if a call arrives at an exchange from 
> overseas as opposed to another exchange within the country and the first 
> digit after the country code (eg 44 of UK) is a zero, discard that zero 
> before passing the rest of the digits onto the normal exchange selection 
> code.
> 
> That would mean that +44 01296 xxxxx and +44 1296 xxxxxx would be identical, 
> and avoid all the faffing around with telling people to dial two different 
> numbers (ignoring the extra +44) depending on whether or not they were 
> calling from abroad.
> 
> Apart from the one-off work of implementing that change, is there a 
> fundamental disadvantage with doing it? I presume there must be, otherwise 
> *surely* they would have done it by now. 

  I am probably (surely? :-)) out of my league and Carlos probably knows
more about this, but this page

<https://countrycode.org/uk>

seems to imply that +44 0XX is used for UK toll free calling.

  If that's true, anyone with a 0[81|00|09|03] xxx.. UK number would be
unreachable, when people would use +44 0... from outside the UK.

(The Dutch situation seems similar <https://countrycode.org/netherlands>.
And so is the situation for the other mentioned '0-country', Sweden.)

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    Re: use of the plus sign "NY" <me@privacy.net> - 2019-02-01 10:45 +0000
      Re: use of the plus sign Lars Enderin <lars.enderin@telia.com> - 2019-02-01 12:07 +0100
        Re: use of the plus sign "NY" <me@privacy.net> - 2019-02-01 11:54 +0000
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          Re: use of the plus sign Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2019-02-01 15:28 +0000
            Re: use of the plus sign "NY" <me@privacy.net> - 2019-02-01 16:58 +0000
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                Re: use of the plus sign "NY" <me@privacy.net> - 2019-02-01 18:05 +0000
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              Re: use of the plus sign Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2019-02-01 21:09 +0000
                Re: use of the plus sign Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2019-02-01 22:08 +0000
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            Re: use of the plus sign Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2019-02-01 21:58 +0000
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              Re: use of the plus sign "NY" <me@privacy.net> - 2019-02-02 19:52 +0000
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