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Re: what makes black holes spin ?

From benj <benj.fake@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics
Subject Re: what makes black holes spin ?
Date 2019-01-31 22:47 -0500
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On 1/31/2019 5:08 PM, Mahipal wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 30, 2019 at 7:21:09 PM UTC-5, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, January 30, 2019 at 2:09:55 PM UTC-5, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, January 30, 2019 at 12:19:30 PM UTC-5, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Odd
>>>>>>> “Better to be COMPLETELY uneducated in a subject, completely clueless about
>>>>>>> the language used for the subject, and then making up word-salad babble
>>>>>>> where you don’t even know the meanings of the words you’re using, than to
>>>>>>> be a sheep. Right, John? ”
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It’s the sheep that refuse to learn new things, in my experience. Are you
>>>>>>> finally admitting that you’re a sheep? Good first step.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’m happy to learn new things that come from people who know something. New
>>>>>> things that come from someone who is completely uneducated in a subject and
>>>>>> does not even understand the language of the subject is a .... Complete.
>>>>>> Waste. Of. Time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Complete? Odd, why is it then you spend post-after-post chasing John's posts?
>>>>> Even a class in college is but a semester long. Away with these students.
>>>>
>>>> Mahipal, long time.
>>>
>>> Long time, same woods.
> 
> [trim]
> 
>>> Or perhaps you both simply enjoy drawing attention on a daily basis?
>>> John's fixation on galaxies and atoms being similar but on different
>>> size scales is akin to that skit in movie Animal House. Where the stoned
>>> professor, high with the students, wows them with what's in our fingers.
>>
>> I think you are right about his “Wowww, far out, man!” rapture with ideas
>> that most people entertain as eight-year-olds.
> 
> Some ideas persist well into one's eight(y)-year-olds time windows.
> If one's lucky, then their ideas will further delude generations to come?
> 
>>>> Or perhaps he really has deluded himself into thinking that it’s the
>>>> untainted, uneducated novices that come up with the brilliant ideas that
>>>> move the dial forward, even though that is not a historical reality,
>>>> because it makes him feel better about himself.
>>>
>>> What's better, to delude one's self on one's own terms or to have
>>> others' delusions thrust upon you?
>>
>> How about doing away with delusions?
> 
> I don't think that it's possible to drive away delusions that far.
> Is your world-view delusion free, Odd? Do open-ended questions exist?

Odd's world is ALL delusion! Just ak him!

>>> I'm a major fan of James Burke. He wrote/televised books/shows like
>>> "Connections" and "The Day The Universe Changed." He had/has this nice
>>> English accent. Hey, I've got to learn me English from somewhere someone...
>>>
>>> Anyway, James recalls a incident of farmers finding weird rocks in their
>>> fields. Somehow, local astronomers became aware of these rocks. They
>>> asked the farmers from where did the rocks come? Farmers, being
>>> non-technical non-experts said that the rocks fell from the skies,
>>> stars, heavens. Something like that, for I can only paraphrase.
>>>
>>> Moral, as history unfolded, after the astronomers mocked the farmers
>>> with "Sure they did. Sure they did." The rocks were later confirmed to
>>> be meteorites. Interesting story, situation, I thought to meself.
>>
>> Note the difference. The farmers had observational data that they didn’t
>> interpret. John is ideating and ignoring observations.
> 
> The farmers had the good sense to talk/share about the rocks raining down.
> Perhaps the rocks were from nearby volcanic eruptions? Or Satan Caused...
> 
> First, John gives references to published observations. Then he twistedly
> interprets them to fit his pre-conceived notions. Nothing wrong with that.
> Still, he shouldn't project that all physicists are somehow just
> stupid because of experiments like LIGO. Or gravity sucks. Or ...
> 
> BTW, I'm just a distant obersever feigning interest in astronomy.
> I used to attend meetings at NASA/GSFC where different academic and
> other institutions would schedule observational time on satellites.
> The competitions were rather rough and expensive. Those who won the
> observational time window, got the right to view/study the collected
> data for like one-year before it became available to other scientists.
> 
> I presume John is accessing this data, minimum of a year later.
> Besides, what's one year on astronomical time scales. Say 1987.
> 
> Second? This thread is getting too long for average current human's
> attention span. Even I myself, prefer to write more than to just read.
> 
>>>> Regardless which one is on target with him, they’re all misbegotten notions
>>>> that should be pinched off like rotten fruit.
>>>
>>> So Odd, the unnamed one, where do you find the time to make to(y)s?
>>>
>>> There are two kinds of people, those who want to be remembered, and
>>> those that don't. Which one is you?
>>
>> If I cared to be remembered I would post here.
> 
> You'd be remembered as being odd, Odd. It's your dime...
> 
>>> So, my grandfather, father's side, was a carpenter. Like when I was
>>> three, years old, not in which grade, he'd make me wooden to(y)s.
>>> I can still see him chiseling away. Then I'd run off and play...
>>>
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८!
>>>>> Contents of some email I received: "WE WANT TO STAY CONNECTED"
>>>>> TheyTheThem2me: Why don't you open our emails anymore? Why O why?
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>>>
>>> Why do I talk about myself? I think of all humans as some physics experiment.
> 
> With evil laughter me2me: Because no one else will, or knows what to, talk about me!
> 
>>> -- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८!
>> -- 
>> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> 
> -- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८!
> 

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