Re: what makes black holes spin ?

From	Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics
Subject	Re: what makes black holes spin ?
Date	2019-01-31 00:21 +0000
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Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 30, 2019 at 2:09:55 PM UTC-5, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, January 30, 2019 at 12:19:30 PM UTC-5, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Odd
>>>>> “Better to be COMPLETELY uneducated in a subject, completely clueless about 
>>>>> the language used for the subject, and then making up word-salad babble 
>>>>> where you don’t even know the meanings of the words you’re using, than to 
>>>>> be a sheep. Right, John? ”
>>>> 
>>>>> It’s the sheep that refuse to learn new things, in my experience. Are you
>>>>> finally admitting that you’re a sheep? Good first step.
>>>> 
>>>> I’m happy to learn new things that come from people who know something. New
>>>> things that come from someone who is completely uneducated in a subject and
>>>> does not even understand the language of the subject is a .... Complete.
>>>> Waste. Of. Time. 
>>> 
>>> Complete? Odd, why is it then you spend post-after-post chasing John's posts?
>>> Even a class in college is but a semester long. Away with these students. 
>> 
>> Mahipal, long time. 
> 
> Long time, same woods.
> 
>> I comment on John’s posts, not to learn anything, but to encourage him to
>> change his ways. He has taken the path of dress-up-and-make-believe, which
>> is fine if done alone in a mirror or as part of a show where an audience
>> are paying for make-believe entertainment. John, however, wants to be taken
>> seriously. Much like a quack doctor without a license would like to be
>> taken seriously. Or someone posing as a movie director to get laid by
>> actresses. 
> 
> Even if the movie director might be female. Actresses be/are beautiful.
> 
>> Or perhaps his thinking is that he’s too chickenshit afraid to try actually
>> learning something, and so he’s hoping that by posturing and saying
>> ridiculous things that he just makes up, then someone will actually try to
>> explain it at a level he can understand. 
> 
> Or perhaps you both simply enjoy drawing attention on a daily basis?
> John's fixation on galaxies and atoms being similar but on different
> size scales is akin to that skit in movie Animal House. Where the stoned
> professor, high with the students, wows them with what's in our fingers.

I think you are right about his “Wowww, far out, man!” rapture with ideas
that most people entertain as eight-year-olds. 


> 
>> Or perhaps he really has deluded himself into thinking that it’s the
>> untainted, uneducated novices that come up with the brilliant ideas that
>> move the dial forward, even though that is not a historical reality,
>> because it makes him feel better about himself. 
> 
> What's better, to delude one's self on one's own terms or to have
> others' delusions thrust upon you?

How about doing away with delusions?

> 
> I'm a major fan of James Burke. He wrote/televised books/shows like
> "Connections" and "The Day The Universe Changed." He had/has this nice
> English accent. Hey, I've got to learn me English from somewhere someone...
> 
> Anyway, James recalls a incident of farmers finding weird rocks in their
> fields. Somehow, local astronomers became aware of these rocks. They
> asked the farmers from where did the rocks come? Farmers, being
> non-technical non-experts said that the rocks fell from the skies,
> stars, heavens. Something like that, for I can only paraphrase.
> 
> Moral, as history unfolded, after the astronomers mocked the farmers
> with "Sure they did. Sure they did." The rocks were later confirmed to
> be meteorites. Interesting story, situation, I thought to meself.

Note the difference. The farmers had observational data that they didn’t
interpret. John is ideating and ignoring observations. 

> 
>> Regardless which one is on target with him, they’re all misbegotten notions
>> that should be pinched off like rotten fruit. 
> 
> So Odd, the unnamed one, where do you find the time to make to(y)s?
> 
> There are two kinds of people, those who want to be remembered, and
> those that don't. Which one is you?

If I cared to be remembered I would post here. 


> 
> So, my grandfather, father's side, was a carpenter. Like when I was
> three, years old, not in which grade, he'd make me wooden to(y)s. 
> I can still see him chiseling away. Then I'd run off and play...
> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>>> 
>>> -- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८! 
>>> Contents of some email I received: "WE WANT TO STAY CONNECTED"
>>> TheyTheThem2me: Why don't you open our emails anymore? Why O why?
>> 
>> -- 
>> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> 
> Why do I talk about myself? I think of all humans as some physics experiment.
> 
> -- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८! 
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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