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On 8/28/2015 12:38 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Friday 28 August 2015 06:24:33 Seeker wrote:
>> On 8/27/2015 12:48 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
>>
>>> Connecting home computers to TVs came _before_ connecting them to
>>> monitors. The circle has merely come back to the beginning.
>>>
>>> Lisi
>> I had a Commodor 64, but did not have the accessories to actually use it
>> like a computer
>> so it was just a game system to me.
>>
>> It was probably 2007-2008 so it wasn't *that* long ago,
> No - I was referring to c. 1981 when Sinclair launched the ZX81 and Atari
> launched its home computer (or was that in 1982?).  We used TVs for display.
> 2007 is really recent.
>
> Lisi
>
>
Guess I jumped gears there without giving a clear indication. :-\

2007-2008 was when I started messing around with getting a computer to 
work with the TV so we
could watch the Australian show.

The Commodore 64 was earlier.

www.computerhistory.org seems a bit US centric 
http://www.computerhistory.org/timeline/?category=cmptr
  and missing some of the European computers, their timeline lists Atari 
Model 400 and 800 in
1979, Commodore 64 in 1982. Wikipedia shows Sinclair ZX81 in 1981.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZX81

All I really remember of the Commodore was Jumpman Jr. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumpman
I didn't have the monitor or floppy drive, we hooked it to the TV.

Jumping back to 2007

I see some places on the net that list US NTSC as being 60 on the 
refresh rate, but it is actually slightly less.
The slightly less seemed to be the issue, with the video cards giving a 
59 or 60 or maybe only 60 as an
option.

Currently.

Don't know if the better compatibility these days is in the video 
hardware or the TV hardware, but I
suspect it's on the TV side of the equation, maybe a little of both with 
more people wanting to do
the media center thing, computer gaming on the TV, etc...

About 3 years ago I did play around with Blu-ray, the drive was old, the 
software that came with it
stopped being updated in 2010. Had 2 movies both released after 2010, 
initially neither would play,
after poking around on the net and finding a firmware update, I could 
get one of the movies to play.
Same result with the included software and VLC.

Since then I have seen another solution mentioned in the MythTV mailing 
list a few times. I think it
doesn't allow just watching a movie directly though because they talk 
about a delay while starting
the movie decoding and building up a buffer then watching the buffered 
content.

DVD is only slightly screwed up. With Blu-ray it seems like they did 
every thing they could to screw it
up. Even if you don't care about playing commercial video discs, there 
is some question of whether you
want to spend money supporting a technology that has that much baggage.

Later, Seeker

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Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2015-08-27 09:10 +0200
  Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2015-08-27 10:30 +0200
    Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2015-08-27 11:50 +0200
      Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 12:30 +0200
        Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2015-08-27 13:10 +0200
          Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 13:40 +0200
            Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2015-08-27 15:40 +0200
        Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray ken <gebser@mousecar.com> - 2015-08-27 16:30 +0200
          Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2015-08-27 18:10 +0200
        Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2015-08-27 18:30 +0200
          Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 19:50 +0200
            Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2015-08-27 20:20 +0200
              Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2015-08-28 04:10 +0200
      Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2015-08-27 18:10 +0200
        Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2015-08-27 19:30 +0200
        Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 21:50 +0200
          Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2015-08-28 04:20 +0200
            Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 09:30 +0200
  Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2015-08-27 17:00 +0200
    Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2015-08-27 18:10 +0200
      Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray Seeker <seeker5528@comcast.net> - 2015-08-27 20:40 +0200
        Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 21:50 +0200
          Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 03:00 +0200
          Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray Seeker <seeker5528@comcast.net> - 2015-08-28 07:30 +0200
            Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 09:40 +0200
              Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray Seeker <seeker5528@comcast.net> - 2015-08-29 08:10 +0200
        Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2015-08-27 22:20 +0200
          Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray "T.J. Duchene" <t.j.duchene@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 00:20 +0200
            Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2015-08-28 11:00 +0200
              Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray "T.J. Duchene" <t.j.duchene@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 01:40 +0200
          Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2015-08-28 04:20 +0200
          Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray Seeker <seeker5528@comcast.net> - 2015-08-28 07:50 +0200
  Hh "T.J. Duchene" <t.j.duchene@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 23:50 +0200

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